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Cyril Towers (30)
Brumby Jack said:
ARU just sent out a release saying they have heard from a third party of the change but have not been informed of the change officially from the Rebels, as per their obligation under the participation deed.
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What? the ARU putting out a statement on this culling matter, that's a first, they must be in panic mode!
 
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daz

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Brumby Jack said:
ARU just sent out a release saying they have heard from a third party of the change but have not been informed of the change officially from the Rebels, as per their obligation under the participation deed.
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From Wayne Smith, for what it is worth:

"But the VRU has legal advice that no such notification is necessary, given the ARU signed off on the put option in 2015. In other words, the VRU doesn’t believe it needs the ARU’s approval of the sale."
 
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daz said:
From Wayne Smith, for what it is worth:

"But the VRU has legal advice that no such notification is necessary, given the ARU signed off on the put option in 2015. In other words, the VRU doesn’t believe it needs the ARU’s approval of the sale."
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And RugbyWA also believed that the Force were secure in the competition until 2020...

Who knows what to believe, i'd love to know what the ARU's legal bill is up to.
 
James Pettifer

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Jim Clark (26)
TOCC said:
And RugbyWA also believed that the Force were secure in the competition until 2020.

Who knows what to believe, i'd love to know what the ARU's legal bill is up to.
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Slightly different. Rugby WA have a clause that they will be in the competition as long as the current broadcast arrangement is in place. That is is the contract and the ARU do not disagree with this. If there is a put option in the contract and the Rebels/VRU have followed the right process, then the ARU have no leg to stand on.

The ARU's argument with Rugby WA is about whether it is a new broadcast arrangement. Given they sent a press release saying that the change was within the broadcast arrangement, I think they have been hammered in arbitration.

The Force and Rebels have clearly been talking (I am sure there were discussions around transferring players / staff etc if one of them was to go down) and, as Daz says, the timing is very interesting.
 
Mr Wobbly

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Alan Cameron (40)
TOCC said:
And RugbyWA also believed that the Force were secure in the competition until 2020.

Who knows what to believe, i'd love to know what the ARU's legal bill is up to.
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The Force may have been correct in that belief. Tune in next week to find out more.
 
Brumby Runner

Brumby Runner

David Wilson (68)
Ah, this old strawman returns. GMR, the mess started well before Pocock's deal, and as has been stated many times, he was paid for X number of years playing service over X + 1 calendar years. Give it a rest.
 
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Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Brumby Runner said:
Ah, this old strawman returns. GMR, the mess started well before Pocock's deal, and as has been stated many times, he was paid for X number of years playing service over X + 1 calendar years. Give it a rest.
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Yeah, I know that, but why start using logic now? That went out the window ages ago.
 
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James Pettifer said:
Slightly different. Rugby WA have a clause that they will be in the competition as long as the current broadcast arrangement is in place. That is is the contract and the ARU do not disagree with this. If there is a put option in the contract and the Rebels/VRU have followed the right process, then the ARU have no leg to stand on.
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Well apparently the ARU had an emergency meeting last night about this so saying they have no leg to stand on(despite what the contract says) is a bit pre-mature. Let's wait and see.

Law is a fickle beast and is pretty open to interpretation. (see:the confidence of both RugbyWA & ARU in this arbitration case)

Remember all that 'grassroots' money cutting a team was supposed to give Australian rugby? ;)
 
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daz

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BLR said:
Well apparently the ARU had an emergency meeting last night about this so saying they have no leg to stand on(despite what the contract says) is a bit pre-mature.
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How much do you want to bet that the emergency meeting was a bunch of rich white men looking at each other and saying "I didn't know that. Did you know that? What clause? Did you read the fucking contract before you signed it?"
 
Jon

Jon

Chris McKivat (8)
TOCC said:
And RugbyWA also believed that the Force were secure in the competition until 2020.

Who knows what to believe, i'd love to know what the ARU's legal bill is up to.
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Potentially 300-600k more if the force win arbitration
 
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TOCC

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Harold Mitchell gifted the Rebels license to the VRU in June 2013.. it didn't work then, why will it work now? Not being critical, but struggling to understand the logic of this decision.
 
GoMelbRebels

GoMelbRebels

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
TOCC said:
Harold Mitchell gifted the Rebels license to the VRU in June 2013.. it didn't work then, why will it work now? Not being critical, but struggling to understand the logic of this decision.
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This time the Vic Government is backing it.
 
KevinO

KevinO

Geoff Shaw (53)
TOCC said:
Harold Mitchell gifted the Rebels license to the VRU in June 2013.. it didn't work then, why will it work now? Not being critical, but struggling to understand the logic of this decision.
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Mitchell was not a rugby man, club was set up all wrong. The current set up is alot better than the early days, with vic government backing it has a chance to succeed.

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Strewthcobber

Strewthcobber

Andrew Slack (58)
Has there been any indication as to what form (or what amount) the government backing will take?

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BLR

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KevinO said:
Mitchell was not a rugby man, club was set up all wrong. The current set up is alot better than the early days, with vic government backing it has a chance to succeed.

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Is the current set up ACTUALLY any better, there isn't any indication of stability financially and it's not like they have actually gotten closer to the finals.
 
GoMelbRebels

GoMelbRebels

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
BLR said:
Is the current set up ACTUALLY any better, there isn't any indication of stability financially and it's not like they have actually gotten closer to the finals.
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Please don't use the word "gotten" on this forum. It's not a proper word.
 
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