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One which apparently has caused people to keep the story going by talking about defamation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Look, you can pretend like it all sounded perfectly normal and reasonable, but that's clearly not a universally held view and there's a good reason it's not. This looked and sounded dodgy and it still does. And as they say, if looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, well it's probably a...

We're still talking about it because people are talking defamation, and I reckon there's a snowflakes chance in hell of that flying based on what happened. Sure Pulver came out and gave an explanation, but coupled with the hasty and unnecessary deletion of the pages, it still looked and sounded...

Well now you're just being silly. The facts that remained in the altered version that remains on the SMH are still odd and I don't know how you don't think it is. As I've said previously the only possible explanations for it are intentional embellishment or incompetence. Sent from my iPhone...

This is actually incorrect. Guinness never pulled the article, he simply updated it to include the ARU explanation - an explanation that to any rational observer was odd and quite clearly raised yet more questions. I know bagging the media is something of a sport, but I actually don't see what...

It's interesting that there's been a few people seemingly quite irate at Georgina Robinson over this, with some suggesting that she's lied or exaggerated to even "make a name for herself" (kind of unnecessary at this point I'd have thought) and all to eager to pin a lot of negative assumptions...

The entire thing has been depressing and frustrating for everyone I think, and yes the text message thing was worthy of harsher treatment earlier. But in terms of the stuff about Patston and the Wallabies disciplinary systems it appears to have been brewing for a while and it's not all about...

Well they're both gone and probably for good... Can't see Kurtley coming back from this Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Agreed - particularly Australia can't gain anything from this game. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah, or you know, may be you could just correct the site after it became clear it was wrong and keep it up there and then when further enquiries are made explain the situation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Call it whatever you like, but it's sloppy work at best and was handled poorly. You're right - LinkedIn is a barely used site, but why make it look suspicious with the hasty deletions? Just calmly explain it! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don't think you can blame Guinness for that. That was a fuck up on Patston and the ARU's part. I mean FFS it looks pretty bloody suspect when the person at the centre of a story suddenly deletes all public info about them after it emerges their professional profile has been setup by a third...

You're not inferring that's what I meant are you? Because it's not. I just want to know what Georgina has to gain from publishing blatant lies. Surely if she did the playing group as a whole could have come out in support of Patston - something that would have massively undermined Georgina...

I actually am keeping quite an open mind about all of this, but what has happened to date hasn't just reflected poorly on Beale, but on the entire Wallaby setup. And yes, of course it's possible Georgina made up the allegations, but again, what is her motive if that's true? There are an awful...

Well he played 12 at the Tahs, and he prefers 10, so not entirely. But I take you're point about winning teams... and maybe Cheika's propensity to break shit when they lose meant the players kept quiet.

He effectively has been "fired" a few times, Carney style from different teams for his off field indiscretions. But the feeling was he'd come good this year with the 'Tahs - and he had a brilliant season with them to boot. So what's happened in the Wallabies?

Yeah, he's had a run all right. But again, what I'm having trouble reconciling is how Cheika seemed to manage him without incident all year without a "behavioural psychologist" on staff.

Again - "20 something bloke has scuffle with a bouncer" doesn't really put him into the "unmanageble" category for mine. But look, I'm not denying the bloke has issues, just that he's got nothing on guys in the NRL, AFL, NFL and even EPL in terms of anti-social hard to manage behaviour.

On what are you basing that on? You're still speculating. We don't know where the rumours have come from though do we? The internet isn't exactly unknown for dredging up crazy theories... doesn't mean there's a campaign. So you're suggesting Georgina Robinson is making it up? Think that...

That's kinda my point actually. Beale and some former Wallaby players have been involved had a handful off field incidents over the years, and so you could understand a coach bringing in someone with a solid pysch and management background to help keep things in check. But let's not kid...