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    The Israel Folau saga

    Rugby AU as a community organisation should reflect the values of the community If Rugby AU really is proudly so anti-democratic it should rebrand as Rugby Politbureau or something This is not about their right to make a code of conduct It's what that code of conduct ought to be
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    The Israel Folau saga

    This focus group was scientifically conducted included a stratified sample (weighted) so to dismiss it prima facie is a weak strawman argument Your argument is also legalistic, you say its because he breached the code of conduct I say the poll shows what the code of conduct of a community...
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    The Israel Folau saga

    A recent focus group of 800 (so statistically significant) showed 48% oppose firing him, 40% for and 12% undecided. Published in the oz Given the first value of Australia is that power and morality stems from the people, not from the state or from higher powers Shouldn't Rugby Australia...
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    The Israel Folau saga

    Fair point
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    The Israel Folau saga

    I'd fully support this. I think one of the thing's we need to remember is that to get along in this world we have to understand each other Point blank firing Folau doesn't achieve this - as I predicted- it turns him into a martyr But sending him in, making him front up to actual human beings...
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    Reds 2019

    I think Ignoto / Cheika is making a really good point Does everyone remember 2017 when in our first game against Italy our blokes just looked like they just weren't all there How good is it to see someone in just shit hot form! Kerevi's physicality and lines are fantastic, but I think...
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    The Israel Folau saga

    Code of conduct doesn't stop that -- the fair work act with its provisions for bullying, workplace harassment, unfair dismissal and otherwise does
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    The Israel Folau saga

    Ever since the ruling classes of East Germany shamelessly nicknamed the Berlin Wall the Antifaschistischer Schutzwall, the anti-fascist protection wall, it pays to check how those with power use words, pretending to protect us by restricting basic freedoms. Those wielding power today favour...
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    The Israel Folau saga

    "Vaguely drafted codes of conduct are a conduit for double standards. And that is why they are bogus legal instruments. Every law student is taught that contracts can be voided for uncertainty. A boss should only ever have power to adversely affect a person’s employment in the clearest and most...
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    The Israel Folau saga

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/thats-code-for-conduct-yourself-as-we-tell-you/news-story/3f966dea26aba72171c3e81c5e1ac043 I cannot recommend reading this article enough. Every single person in this thread should be obligated to because it's really important. It basically goes...
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    The Israel Folau saga

    Peter Fitzsimons, the man behind the incredible stadiums campaign, which involved the incredible electoral rout and removal of a government exit polls saying less than 10% of people cared about it
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    The Israel Folau saga

    yet Barnaby Joyce is a member of the incumbent government of Australia, and Jones while not representing a majority of people represents a legitimate number of particularly older Australians I have the demographic sheet which shows exactly how many listeners jones has and at what time and I...
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    The Israel Folau saga

    Your logical fallacy is ad hominem
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    The Israel Folau saga

    Barnaby Joyce saying Nixon pursued communists less than RugbyAU has gone after Folau This is the guy that made his name destroying people on the house unamerican activities committee alongside Joe McCarthy and using terms like Red China, and staring down soviet leaders like Kruschev Great...
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    The Israel Folau saga

    I'd say exactly the same to you sir
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    Sharks v Reds, 19th April, Durban

    Kerevi is growing as a player Who remembers his 2017 shocker in bled 1... wow he looks like a superior player, picks his time to offload wisely, is consistent. Keep him reds
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    Reds 2019

    Surely Kerevi can be kept...
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    The Israel Folau saga

    For the people who are absolutely sure this hasn’t caused brand damage here’s Alan Jones linking his article which really goes at them It’s likef by 18000 people and been shared 11,000 times, which would give it an enormous reach, id say in the vicinity of a million people It would also have...
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    The Israel Folau saga

    I can see this dragging out and costing RA millions Even though I’ll disagree with the way they handled it if that’s the case I’ll still think look mate did you really have to do this
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    The Israel Folau saga

    I think everyone here can all agree on this, he didn’t have to do it and it’s caused a stink over something dumb This is different to the question of what the process and rights he should be entitled to is
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