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I’d still like to caveat what I’ve written above by saying in my personal opinion he’s a moron for doing all this and it gives me utter dismay that we have to deal with shit like this instead of doing what we love and play rugby... but that’s life I guess

do you then accept that silencing their leading public figure from making political statements will rankle conservatives, who make up between 32 and 38 percent of the population, and thus tarnish your brand with them? Because that’s what’s happening The whole point is that politics offends...

As I’ve said before, rugby au should take no stance on social or political issues to avoid this They should simply say his views are his own private political views In terms of homosexuality being a political issue, it’s not up to us or governing bodies to define what’s political, it’s in the...

But barbarian, isn’t it better to bring people’s views out in the open and leave them liable for public critique and an open discussion? Furthermore, to tell homosexual people there aren’t people in the community out there who don’t accept them is lying to them. They ought to know the truth so...

This is a good analysis I agree with you on public opinion - most people are clearly supportive of the move

Few things RA's previous comments backed them into a corner They could never do anything that wasn't strong, having said that I still think a 50grand fine would have been a better move At the end of the day its Folau's fault even though we might have some disagreements about the right...

Will never agree with this decision It martyrs him

Yes and I'm aware of the contradiction but I think it's a particularly egregious case. I'm more referring to activism in general and how much of a waste of time it is

I just cannot agree that supporting same sex marriage made people choose Qantas as an airline I've never ever seen any friend that's gone on an overseas holiday ever choose an airline based off their social positions In fact many of them fly with state owned airlines from countries that have...

Given activism and what's right is inherently political and subjective, absolutely not Returning a profit to your shareholders does not mean engaging in social activism, which will only ever alienate certain segments of people. This whole thread is that case in point. It's not in QANTAS'...

Companies should have an obligation to their shareholders and no more Corporate activism can die in a hole

Folau should be fined but it is disgraceful and outrageous that QANTAS threatens to pull sponsorship over this People will say yeah its their right to do so and fair enough it is, but it doesn't make it right Qantas should also be careful what it wishes for Companies that have engaged in...

Yes but notice the fined appropriately element

Remember that sacking him will offend people with a conservative philosophy which would be quite a few Rugby fans I think the best solution is a reasoned, material fine. Think between 20 and 50-thousand dollars I think you're overestimating his thought process when you say its a deliberate...

Thanks for the mods for keeping this thread open to date It's important we are able to have these discussions I was pretty disappointed when the previous threads were locked because this is an important issue for rugby and how we manage to all get along. Just shutting down threads doesn't...

Nice to see an Aussie derby with a bit of narrative and verve. Go reds, should be a good game

I think people are forgetting a pacific islander team or two function as loss leaders for the game They might create financial red, but they make up for it, in intruige, away fans which will create heaps of atmosphere, and a competition which has genuine meaning and feel. You might lose on...

Would you like to explain why or continue to be facetious

Australia and New Zealand should immediately begin developing plans for a Trans-Tasman comp in secret. They should have 5 NZ Teams, 5 Aus teams, 3 pacific island teams and a Japanese team for 14 teams Home and away with semi finals and a final, with two byes per team This would give the comp...

Just wondering at what stage are we going to have leadership at Rugby AU that won't immediately acquiesce to threats made by the South Africans. I am willing to bet that if Australia had said nope, your deranged competition just won't do, when SA first went FUBAR in 2016, we could easily have a...