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Need someone from St Ives to confirm but my understanding is they think he may have played both 3s and 1s. There are 3 brothers playing so I guess it's possible couldn't imagine them looking too different. Seems silly to risk points when in front in both comps.

Just had something interesting come into my inbox. Did Eppings "Palmer" brothers change things up last week and submit an incorrect team list? Report has it that their 1st grade 10 Was seen playing in 3s under his brothers name and was seen running into the field when St Ives had 1st graders...

I would say most clubs have a little in fighting. Selection process, guys not training, blokes just wanting to run around in lower grades. If subbies rugby wasn't in such a sad state I would be telling blokes (like McGee, like Burfit) to get lost. Go to Shute shield if you think you are bigger...

Some interesting news spreading about redfield. im hearing they are all but giving up 1st grade and will concentrate on 3s similar to last year dropping blokes this week as it allows them to qualify. As for Epping a meeting between key figures was held on Saturday night with some heated...

I'm not sure about this..what I will say is that they struggle to have the same teams week in and week out and it's about this time of year that old 1st grade players start showing up in 3s. Wouldn't be surprised to see him pop up in lower grades right in time for a finals appearance as their...

"There's gotta be an investigation into this!" - Geoff Toovey

I'm unsure what the go is there surely Booba couldn't be too bad if they still managed to get a win. Maybe he could work on their 2s side who cant buy a win this year.

Div 1 Colleagues win and celebrations were as big as you have seen in subbies rugby. Div 2 Mountain men getting it done over Hunters Hill. HH missing some players but hearing they still should've got the win. Div 3 Epping good enough with 8 first graders out. A very disappointing St Ives day...

Wife's gone out, footy is over..having a look at some early team lists that are out for tomorrow and some big inclusions and also looks like some rumours about forfeits and unhappy players are true.

Had to take up a different hobby after my rugby career never took off.

''Twas the night before game day, and all thro' subbies people were wondering...what drama will transpire tomorrow. Will there be forfeits or even a brawl. Many little birds sing great songs but we wait to find out which will come true.

Biggest win - Hunters hill over Mountains - HH at home too strong and skilful Best game - redfield v iggies - evenly matched in both backs and forwards Biggest upset - St Ives over Epping - Epping in trouble this week players refusing to play 1s

1 Drummoyne v Pats- Drummoyne Knox v Colleagues- Colleagues Mosman v Balmain- Mosman Waverley v Petersham- Waverly 2 Hunters Hillv Blue Mountains - Hunters Hill UNSW v Hills - UNSW Beecroft v HAC - HAC Lindfield v Forest - Linfied 3 Brothers v Newport - Newport St Ives v Epping - St Ives...

Sad to hear Pfitzy! Prodigy...As an old coach I know it is hard to select when good mates are involved. Some people derserve their chance particularly when they attend training and been around the club for years

Watch this space. Some players unhappy about selection process

Yeah from what some of the older guys have said they are just unhappy with blokes that show up one week and then miss the next. I guess losing more games then you win will do that.

Sydney Irish, Mac Uni, Barker, Epping, brothers, Hawks Ag and surprisingly Balmain are lacking for numbers with players away or jumping ship from struggling clubs

Let us get through the Subbies World Cup before you start suggesting more games. Player welfare is important

Great work Sandeep. This is catching momentum..I hear the Italians are starting to put a call out for players to commit their loyalties.

news around the grounds is that we will be seeing a lot more forfeits throughout the grades. Time for some clubs to merge I reckon.