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2016 Under-20 Rugby World Championships - Manchester UK

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waiopehu oldboy

waiopehu oldboy

Stirling Mortlock (74)
FTR:

New Zealand 71-12 Wales
Georgia 18-17 Italy
Ireland 37-7 Argentina
France 41-27 Japan
England 39-17 South Africa
Australia 35-19 Scotland

Playoffs:
11/12 Italy v Japan (loser relegated)
9/10 Georgia v France
7/8 Scotland v Wales
5/6 New Zealand v Australia
3/4 Argentina v South Africa
1/2 Ireland v England

From ~ 2200 Saturday AEST.
 
Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Did Wales tank their game against the Darkness to try and save themselves for the 7th v 8th playoff?

Results like overnight just reinforce the perception that we have blown our best chance in years to make the finals, as articulated by @Lee Grant above.

NZL will also be very disappointed with their close loss to the Paddy's. Probably should have been the final not a pool game.

Tournament play - gotta love it. The "best" team on paper often doesn't win the tournament, but the team that wins the games that count wins.

Gotta think that the Paddy's have the inside running over the Soap Dodgers to claim their first title.
 
Highlander35

Highlander35

Andrew Slack (58)
Not watched it yet, don't really care about the loss, it wasn't a huge margin like the NZ v Wales one like I was afraid of.

But I hope Kinghorn is OK, he's been very good, and he's vital for Edinburghs success. I think he'll miss next year's tournament, as well, with Hoggy 99% on the BILs tour, I'd seriously consider giving him a run wherever we end up (someone wrote something about a tri-series here with us, Fiji and TBC, but eh.)
 
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Jamie Miller0

Frank Row (1)
For those who didn't get to see the match and want a quick summary... (spoiler alert).

Australia picked a big side, with Tui, Rodda, Leota all starting, plus a hefty front row with Uelese at 125kg at hooker. That meant an 80(!) kg advantage at scrum time. The tactics were pretty obvious from the outset: punch it up big and hard, and wear the Scots down.

All started well, with the Aussie fwds getting plenty of play in close, leading to an early try for Lomax. But Scotland hit back against the run of play, scoring one beautiful try in the first half off a big run by their 8 (Miller), and other pretty opportunistic one when the ball squirted out the side of a ruck and the winger picked it up and ran it in. The Aussies had been dominant but trailed 7-12 after 20 minutes, and could’ve felt it just wasn’t going to be their day, much like in the group stages.


But they stuck to the game plan. They kept it in hand, often even when well in their own half, and as the match progressed the size of the Aussie runners wore the Scottish defence out. They didn’t have it all their own way, though. In the second quarter, Scotland had three very kickable penalties, all from roughly 30m out and more or less in front, and missed them all. Halftime score 14-12 to the men in gold.

The second half was all Australia. As the Scottish defence tired, the Aussies were able to throw it about a bit, with one magical counterattack unleashing Tuipulotu for his second under the posts (definitely youtube that one). Tuttle began to stretch the attack wider, and the points inevitably followed. A positional swap between Magnay, who moved into 13, and Jurd, who shifted out to the wing, helped too, as it brought just another big body closer to the action. Jordan Jackson-Hope scored a lovely individual try late on to put daylight between the teams. Despite a late and unexpected surge from the Scots, the U20s held on for the win, 19-28.

Scotland clearly have a couple of real talents out there, especially Cummings (5 and captain) and Ally Miller (8). Both look like they’ll be playing test footy soon. The missed shots at goal also cruelled them, while they performed very well at the scrum given the huge weight disparity.

For the Aussies, there was a lot more structure to the attack than in previous games, helped by the ability of their ball runners to get over the advantage line and keep their feet long enough for the support to arrive. That said, the big forwards were slow to realign in defence around the fringes and Scotland made most of their yardage there. The lineout was, overall, very good. Discipline was again an issue. Aus gave away easy kickable penalties, Tui got a yellow for a heedless high tackle, and Magnay (yep) charged into a player in the air and was simply lucky that the Scot landed squarely on his feet. Ffs.


Best were Tuttle, Lomax, and Rodda, with Vui looking decent off the bench and Leota not too shabby either. I maintain what I said earlier on this thread: there’s some real talent in this team, it’s just a question of getting the most out of it.
 
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Jamie Miller0 said:
For those who didn't get to see the match and want a quick summary. (spoiler alert).

Australia picked a big side, with Tui, Rodda, Leota all starting, plus a hefty front row with Uelese at 125kg at hooker. That meant an 80(!) kg advantage at scrum time. The tactics were pretty obvious from the outset: punch it up big and hard, and wear the Scots down.

All started well, with the Aussie fwds getting plenty of play in close, leading to an early try for Lomax. But Scotland hit back against the run of play, scoring one beautiful try in the first half off a big run by their 8 (Miller), and other pretty opportunistic one when the ball squirted out the side of a ruck and the winger picked it up and ran it in. The Aussies had been dominant but trailed 7-12 after 20 minutes, and could’ve felt it just wasn’t going to be their day, much like in the group stages.


But they stuck to the game plan. They kept it in hand, often even when well in their own half, and as the match progressed the size of the Aussie runners wore the Scottish defence out. They didn’t have it all their own way, though. In the second quarter, Scotland had three very kickable penalties, all from roughly 30m out and more or less in front, and missed them all. Halftime score 14-12 to the men in gold.

The second half was all Australia. As the Scottish defence tired, the Aussies were able to throw it about a bit, with one magical counterattack unleashing Tuipulotu for his second under the posts (definitely youtube that one). Tuttle began to stretch the attack wider, and the points inevitably followed. A positional swap between Magnay, who moved into 13, and Jurd, who shifted out to the wing, helped too, as it brought just another big body closer to the action. Jordan Jackson-Hope scored a lovely individual try late on to put daylight between the teams. Despite a late and unexpected surge from the Scots, the U20s held on for the win, 19-28.

Scotland clearly have a couple of real talents out there, especially Cummings (5 and captain) and Ally Miller (8). Both look like they’ll be playing test footy soon. The missed shots at goal also cruelled them, while they performed very well at the scrum given the huge weight disparity.

For the Aussies, there was a lot more structure to the attack than in previous games, helped by the ability of their ball runners to get over the advantage line and keep their feet long enough for the support to arrive. That said, the big forwards were slow to realign in defence around the fringes and Scotland made most of their yardage there. The lineout was, overall, very good. Discipline was again an issue. Aus gave away easy kickable penalties, Tui got a yellow for a heedless high tackle, and Magnay (yep) charged into a player in the air and was simply lucky that the Scot landed squarely on his feet. Ffs.


Best were Tuttle, Lomax, and Rodda, with Vui looking decent off the bench and Leota not too shabby either. I maintain what I said earlier on this thread: there’s some real talent in this team, it’s just a question of getting the most out of it.
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This is such a spot on summary. Honesty you do not need to watch the match if you have read this.

Cummings looks a real payer as suggested. So strong, good body height.

Tuttle was a class above. Rodda is a polished lock. leota is very dominant in contact, but his hands are a little Sitamani like, maybe not that bad.

Not a bad display, but not terribly well coached either. Should have done much better this year.

JJH try was magic.

The sweeping back-line move changed the game, the Scots realised the Aussies were in a different league at that point.

Viva la running rugby.... for about 5 minutes.
 
Highlander35

Highlander35

Andrew Slack (58)
There's a reason Cummings got a 3 year contract and Nakarawa was released to Racing. Of course, the almighty $/€/£ played a part but he's a ripper.

Got to wonder about Hastings though. He's got the talent in his little toe that many could only dream of, but there's so much of the game where he looks like he's going through the motions or playing on a whim. Wonder if he was some no name Smith or McDonald, he'd even bother with it in the first place.
 
Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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^^^ Good idea. Can you publish it "on their behalf", giving appropriate credit to the author?

IIRC, you know your way around wordpress and the things you need to do to get a blog article up. Do a getty images search to get a picture or two to dress up the article and Bob's your Uncle. Job done, time for a beer.
 
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