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2025 Super Rugby Under 16 and 19 series (u16's, 27th Sept - 2nd Nov) (u19's, 13th Sept - 5th Oct)

Rudderless

John Solomon (38)
HT
Force 24 Brumbies 7
FT
Force 29 Brumbies 19

Some big bodies in the Force. No.8 got himself 2 yellow cards.
 
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Rudderless

John Solomon (38)
Rd 4 of 5
U16

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Saturday 18th: Victoria v Brumbies, La Trobe University Sports Field, Bundoora at 1pm (AEDT)

Sunday 19th: Western Force v Reds, Southern Lions RUFC Field 1 at 4pm (AEDT)

Waratahs BYE
 
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The Ghost of Raelene

John Eales (66)
ACT is well and truly done as a consistent producer of talent and that’s not to talk down Vic who've improved vastly.

It’s a complete recruitment franchise now. They do that extremely well but it’s a much more volatile way to run a Club if NSW and QLD lock up larger numbers which they seem to be.
 

Wilson

Tim Horan (67)
ACT is well and truly done as a consistent producer of talent and that’s not to talk down Vic who've improved vastly.

It’s a complete recruitment franchise now. They do that extremely well but it’s a much more volatile way to run a Club if NSW and QLD lock up larger numbers which they seem to be.
The shorter seasons still leave open significant recruitment opportunities. A longer super season or fully fleshed and professional third tier would really eat into their opportunities to lure guys away at higher levels. Until that happens I don't see them having too much trouble with their current model.

They should otherwise really be looking to formalize pathways from Victoria into the Brumbies while they still exist to hook into, they're most able to start absorbing that talent while it's still unaffiliated and with current success and historic links from guys like Valetini they could set themselves up as the destination of choice very quickly. It would require them investing in the pathway (or getting RA to) long term though).
 

The Ghost of Raelene

John Eales (66)
It’s a lot more recruiting to do though without a local pool to developing 25% of the squad.

I see a scenario in 10 years time that the Brums have 1-2 ACT raised players in the squad at most. Who knows what the landscape will be in 10 years but if it’s the same as now.

Rugby already has a shrinking player base and it’s a shame. I’d be interested to hear ACT locals thoughts on it from the Club/Schools perspective
 

Wilson

Tim Horan (67)
I think those guys are still there though, you jut don't see 25% manifest every year, it tends to be a lumpy distribution, particularly because of the effect competition has on development.

I can't speak to the local scene, but I imagine the Raiders being on a reasonably good run the last ~5 years probably hasn't helped either, but that seems to be coming to an end and talent local talent might flow back a bit.

The for them biggest issue going forward will be how they continue to set the their own standard and path while under the umbrella of RA, with no free cash and less opportunity to find it.
 

The Ghost of Raelene

John Eales (66)
I’m not sure it’s the Raiders. That could affect fan engagements more so. Bigger city but will the Broncos hurt Rugby in Brisbane now? I think Leagues overall development is far better though. If true about the Raiders, their recent popularity and basic competitiveness (other than this year 8th is their highest finish in the last 5 seasons) Would have a bunch of players coming through to maintained competitiveness for the next 5+

I’ve just seen a decline in the standard of sides that come to Sydney from the traditional Schools like Eddie’s, Marist, Grammar for the last decade. Was never the same standard but it was a contested game between 1st, 2nd XVs but now I think some would be 3rd XV and the best probably a 2nd XV standard.
 
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