All Blacks v Argentina, 17th July, 2015, AMI stadium, Christchurch
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AB'S looked good, bonus point as expected. Still looks to be daylight between them and the rest of the teams. they will be happy with that start to the season.
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Dave Cowper (27)
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Didn't expect Hanson to run the bench on so early but i guess the match was won. It's a challenge for coaches to balance the need to see different combinations against the need to build combinations.
And WOB, please try to be more accurate when you're tipping the margin, that was just sloppy
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
And WOB, please try to be more accurate when you're tipping the margin, that was just sloppy
But if I be too accurate too often neck minit father-in-law's TAB account gets frozen & I got no beer money when I come home. Can't be having that now, can we?
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Andrew Slack (58)
Anyone pick up what Richie was penalised for in the scrum just about at the end there?
I had the TV on mute and the description given on screen was "Kicking the ball out of the scrum" which seems very odd.
Joubert seemed to have a few strange interpretations.
I had the TV on mute and the description given on screen was "Kicking the ball out of the scrum" which seems very odd.
Joubert seemed to have a few strange interpretations.
Tordah
Dave Cowper (27)
ABs scored one, if you count that as a maul. Otherwise it's 2/2, doesn't change the point
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Needs to be very strict on the attackers, defenders have to come back around if they swim to the side, so should the attackers.
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Well I'd have penalised him for not being bound, but when the scrum disintegrates players get a fair bit of leeway. But, yes, that seems an unusual description. Perhaps a referee will pop in and provide some insight.
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Tim Horan (67)
Not to bad I thought. Maybe didn't answer too many selection quandaries, as I thought Dagg, Piutau and Naholo all went well, SBW went pretty well as well so a few unlucky players coming up when WC named. Gotta say Kevvie probably did enough to stay in squad, Laulala looks like he could put some pressure on to get a spot as well. TJP certainly would of calmed a lot of nerves re A Smith getting injured.
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Oh, ok. Wasnt a maul though. Agreed it doenst change the point, which is that if its executed as well as the Argies did, (and defended as poorly as the AB's did) - it will score points.
Like any strategy in the game it needs accuracy and skill to implement, if it were as easy as you are suggesting wouldnt all tries be scored by mauls? Why would you bother trying to use a harder method to score!?
Seriously though, I dont disagree that the rules need to be applied, and applied consistently. That doesnt appear to be happening, despite the discussions about doing so for the WC.
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Andrew Slack (58)
Had a quick look at the law book and there's a law against anyone but the front rowers playing the ball in the tunnel (20.9 f).
Might have been that?
Anyway thought it was really good to see the Argies respect the scrum enough to keep it up even as they were being pushed off their own feed. Not many teams are prepared to do that.
That AB scrum is a scary sight for a Wallabies fan though
I see that quite alot in professional games and never seen it pinged.
I guess it is something they have a silent agreenment to let go if it doesnt affect the play
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Bill Watson (15)
It was also a fairly clear case of the 'changing lanes' that got called a few times Super Rugby - the pod that broke off wasn't in contact with any defender when they separated from the back of the maul, which means it's obstruction.
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Bill Watson (15)
I reckon every try from a maul should be referred upstairs to check if anyone joined in front, changing lanes etc. The attacking side gets a real advantage by being able to get the ball to the back where it can't be contested, the refs should make sure they don't infringe on top of that advantage.
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Bill Watson (15)
The thing to remember is that Dagg's not really competing against Smith, he's competing against Piutau, Naholo, Jane etc. If Dagg is playing competently, they'll put him at the back and play Smith on the wing (where he's just as good). I thought Dagg was excellent tonight. Naholo was good for a guy on debut, dropped a few but made some good runs. Piutau was ok, when the ball came his way but overall Dagg shaded him.
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