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David Wilson (68)
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Full time yet WTW?
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Second half. Barker put together some attacking phases and after a strong run by 8 Reimer 11 Marais was over in the corner. 17-5. Minutes later Stenmark took a return pass from 19 Renton to score his second. 22-5. Barker hit back through 11 Marais: 22-10. Not a day for the goal kickers. Going try for try, a deft short pass from Kemeney put 8 Matters through a gap and under the posts - 29-10 with Searl's goal. Kemeney stood in the backs for a line out, took a cut out pass and surged 30m through two weak tackles to score. Searl converted 36-10. Barker 13 van Woerkom regathered his own kick to score - easy conversion missed - 36-15 full time.
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Herbert Moran (7)
Full time, Trinity 50 beat Aloys 14.
Much better TGS performance, finally unleashing their potent backline.
Much better TGS performance, finally unleashing their potent backline.
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Herbert Moran (7)
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Chris McKivat (8)
Full time: K defeat W 38-23. A tale of two halves
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Knox 33 Waves 23. A game of 2 halves. Gave them a bit of a fright. Not exactly supremely dominant. Def beatable @ DV Round 8
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Chris McKivat (8)
It was 38-23 (despite the screen saying 33) they never added on the unconverted try scored on the last play.
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Chris McKivat (8)
A huge amount of injuries coming out of the game as well, not sure how serious
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Chris McKivat (8)
Who? Knox and Waverley?
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Chris McKivat (8)
Yes, saw Roger Smith, Jordan, O'sullivan and Mohi leave the field at least in the second half. Drew Morris did not play either
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Bob McCowan (2)
Aloys v Trinity was a good contest to halftime--Aloys 7-5 up at the break.-Unfortunately Aloys went into game down 2 of their best--prop Rahme and 13-Slaven.Aloys matched a large Trinity pack in the forwards but lost 2 more to injury at the halftime break--10--Dainton and 8-Hrdina.By midway through 2nd half Aloys were missing 7 of their starting team named last week and it showed--missed tackles in the backs and allowing Trinty's backs to dominate--we had 2 of our starting team playing in the backs.Player depth at Aloys was always going to be a big concern this year and it showed today unfortunately so early in the season.
Trinity's best--1/wayland 6/rasch 12-morris 14-h/dessent 15-longville
Aloys best 5-Denny 8-Hrdina 12-flaherty 15-mazaraki
Trinity's best--1/wayland 6/rasch 12-morris 14-h/dessent 15-longville
Aloys best 5-Denny 8-Hrdina 12-flaherty 15-mazaraki
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Vay Wilson (31)
2nd half 33-3 to Knox. Waves gave up a 15 point lead to lose by 15. Gave Knox a fright? Sounds like maybe Knox were slow to wake up but when they did Waves didn't have a lot in response?
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That's one way of looking at it but they definitely gave them a shock in the first half and it was still anyone's game with about 10-15 to go. Waves went close to scoring again when they were up 23-19. They had the field position, but then Knox gained the ascendancy.
Knox played very well in the second half but Waves made some mistakes and took some wrong options which made the difference. And players left the field with injuries, but no excuses. They were beaten by a better team on the day.
But as I said, they are definitely beatable.
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Larry Dwyer (12)
Would agree with Sidelineview. Knox weren't allowed to play their game in first half and a shrewd game plan by Waverley was well executed. Keep the ball in play & don't allow the Knox fwds to bore people to death & use their size to choke the other team with the rolling maul & pick & drive. Waverley on this occasion couldn't string 70 minutes together. There were many more lineouts in 2nd half than first which is familiar territory for Knox. Injuries aplenty to Waverley which didn't help but wasn't reason for loss. They will recover (except for No 8 which looked bad). Sorry to harp on about it, but this really looked like an outfit professionally coached by specialist northern hemisphere coach(es) to barrel over the line. The rolling maul at schoolboy level is effective but even duller than in adult rugby & got 2 direct tries for the Warrawee automatons. It looked for most of the game like a Wallabies v England game. Small forwards scavenging for possession to create something in the backs against a team whose game plan revolved around smashing forwards in contact until a gap opened up somewhere. Knox is England and Waverley the Wallabies (not so astounding when you understand the coaching pedigrees of the Waverley teacher & the Knox professional coach).
Better team won on the day, but rugby wasn't the winner I feel. I have a concern (perhaps open to accusations of bias) that having a professional coach leads to percentage rugby. Their contract hinges on results (wins), whereas a teacher/coach looks at developing individual skills because his contract is based on his classroom performance rather than the on-field performance. This isn't sour grapes as a good big team will normally beat a good little team which is what happened today, but I didn't feel that rugby was the winner. Still, when I went to the Boater's Cafe I was impressed to learn that Knox students can spend a week skiing at Thredbo in June for a mere $2700. Personally I'd rather my boys spend some time with the less fortunate in Sydney, appreciate their lot in life and have their 1st XV coached by their maths teacher rather than ski in Thredbo and have professional rugby coaches, but perhaps that's my warped view of what education is about. Chin chin.
Better team won on the day, but rugby wasn't the winner I feel. I have a concern (perhaps open to accusations of bias) that having a professional coach leads to percentage rugby. Their contract hinges on results (wins), whereas a teacher/coach looks at developing individual skills because his contract is based on his classroom performance rather than the on-field performance. This isn't sour grapes as a good big team will normally beat a good little team which is what happened today, but I didn't feel that rugby was the winner. Still, when I went to the Boater's Cafe I was impressed to learn that Knox students can spend a week skiing at Thredbo in June for a mere $2700. Personally I'd rather my boys spend some time with the less fortunate in Sydney, appreciate their lot in life and have their 1st XV coached by their maths teacher rather than ski in Thredbo and have professional rugby coaches, but perhaps that's my warped view of what education is about. Chin chin.
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Vay Wilson (31)
33 points scored in 35 mins of rugby doesnt normally bore most people to death Brumbie, but I generally share your preference for the maths teacher rather than the pro being the rugby coach. For better or worse it seems the times are a changing.
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Larry Dwyer (12)
Yes a couple of schools - Waverley & Aloys (being the most financially challenged & ideologically indisposed) will maintain the teacher/coach role. I was at the game and must admit the Knox 'throw into the lineout to the tall kid, then use the big kids to drive forward' doesn't do much for crowd interest. Neither did the 10 minutes of pick and drive that didn't result in much. As I said, the bigger, more professionally coached, limited game plan-oriented team won on the day - testimony to the results that a shedload of money & a dedicated professional coach can bring. But in terms of advancing traditional Wallaby running rugby traditions and the dedicated amateurism of exciting schoolboy rugby, not a good spectacle. Knox may win, but the highlights reel will excite tight five afficiandos.
And why are Knox going to Thredbo anyway ? Surely mummy & daddy prefer Queenstown.
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Frank Nicholson (4)
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Larry Dwyer (12)
Sorry, travel in different soshal circles...(spelling mistake deliberate in case there are any pedantic/humourless types out there)
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Larry Dwyer (12)
Complete bollocks - I have matching chips on each. But the issue re professional v amateur coaches in same schoolboy competition is a real one. Insoluble situation but deleterious to rugby's future imho. And fact that parents accept it is part of the longer-term problem.
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