Ireland v Wallabies, Saturday 15/11 (Sunday morning Aus time)

[rugbyAU]

Len himself said he wasn’t picked vs Italy and was disappointed that he want. He was in camp all week, where has this story come from?

The agreement was always that he would play two games

 

[Sir Arthur Higgins]

Not to mention a few quality assistants like Cron and Parling who I feel both had a positive impact on our set piece. I'm not sure Donnelly or Ulugia have had as much positive impact since coming in. We don't seem to be as solid and/or consistent in those areas now.


Skelton brings impact, but truthfully I still feel that Frost is more important for some of the core roles like the lineout work.

Agreed.
We need Carter to fire at 10 and we need Tate back!

Harry Potter was really bad

 

[Where's the beef]

Agreed.
We need Carter to fire at 10 and we need Tate back!

Harry Potter was really bad

I hope Carter is available next week and plays. I want him and edmed.

Tate is a great runner and because of that adds real impact off the bench. His kicking game is a work in progress. I do seem him there in 27.

JGP gave us a master class in 9 today.

 

[rugbyAU]

I hope Carter is available next week and plays. I want him and edmed.

Tate is a great runner and because of that adds real impact off the bench. His kicking game is a work in progress. I do seem him there in 27.

JGP gave us a master class in 9 today.

Edmed sucks bring back Lynagh and Donaldson

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Bollocks. If we can beat the Springboks at home, we can beat every international team. The head coach needs to pick the best support coaches, select the best players , develop the best game plans /plays, and pick the best leaders. Schmidt has dropped the ball. Parling and Cron leave and the set piece crumbles. Wilson is not the team’s leader. The players have each shown their capabilities.

Nah. This side is a 6 - 12 standard in the rankings. There occasionally have good blips when others slip.

Should have lost to Fiji in Newcastle. Got out of jail v Argies in Townsville and lost in Sydney to them.

 

[rugbyAU]

Nah. This side is a 6 - 12 standard in the rankings. There occasionally have good blips when others slip.

Should have lost to Fiji in Newcastle. Got out of jail v Argies in Townsville and lost in Sydney to them.

Don’t forget Japan

 

[Pfitzy]

Countries do more with less than us (Argentina, Scotland and Ireland). We are underachieving because of our player depth gets stretched and our coaches don’t prepare the players to consistently challenge other teams.

By the time a player reaches Test level he should be able to clean out a ruck effectively nearly 100% of the time. Actually by the time he reaches a wider squad for a Super Rugby team.

No international coach - starting back with Deans - was able to correct that because our pathways aren't competitive enough.

Forget the golden pathway approach; we need a bigger base to create a higher peak.

Iron sharpens iron.

 

[Pfitzy]

Nah. This side is a 6 - 12 standard in the rankings. There occasionally have good blips when others slip.

Should have lost to Fiji in Newcastle. Got out of jail v Argies in Townsville and lost in Sydney to them.

People who follow rugby only remember certain things about the Wallabies:
* Grand Slam 1984 Ellas
* RWC 1991
* RWC 1999
* Lions Tour Winners 2001

All those eras had something in common - a bunch of people on and off the field who came together at the right time to create a legendary team.

(And, many times, opponents who were not near their peak or had fallen behind in some critical area e.g. our ascension to professionalism post-95 was streets ahead of everyone else).

In between those eras are gulfs of what we should expect our systems to produce i.e. plucky battlers who are going to struggle when more resources and better alignment create high-percentage, sustainable rugby.

 

[Pfitzy]

^^^ BTW if anyone here still thinks we need to cut another team to create better results, I recommend looking up "correlation vs causation"

 

[rugbyAU]

People who follow rugby only remember certain things about the Wallabies:
* Grand Slam 1984 Ellas
* RWC 1991
* RWC 1999
* Lions Tour Winners 2001

All those eras had something in common - a bunch of people on and off the field who came together at the right time to create a legendary team.

(And, many times, opponents who were not near their peak or had fallen behind in some critical area e.g. our ascension to professionalism post-95 was streets ahead of everyone else).

In between those eras are gulfs of what we should expect our systems to produce i.e. plucky battlers who are going to struggle when more resources and better alignment create high-percentage, sustainable rugby.

What about the Bledisloes and the world cups

 

[HogansHeros]

Yeah im not sure we lost that game at all due to coaching, it was just being unable to execute when it counted. The 5m lineout was the classic example. Get ourselves into position where we should score, then make a basic error. How do our international hookers get to international level and are unable to hit their target 9/10 times?
Also kick chases... everytime Ireland kicked the ball, Mack Hansen was running off the back fence to contest or tackle. Aussies kicked downfield and occasionally had Wilson leading the defensive effort but got nowhere close...

 

[Yoda]

Edmed sucks bring back Lynagh and Donaldson

They probably aren't too disappointed now considering their 10 jersey competition performances! Carter should find his feet in Super rugby next year though. Not sure taking him on this tour after so long out of rugby was a great idea. Then playing him with a quad strain? Crazy. Then giving goal kicking to Kellaway! Surely our best 23 are picked next week and not token games for those tourists who haven't played much? We need to win .

 

[Yoda]

Loved watching the set moves by the Irish backs to put Aussie Mack Hansen over untouched twice. A couple of loops and quick hands for the deception. Not that hard really? The Wallabies have scored 7 tries in the last 4 games. Four from pick and drives close to the line by the forwards. An intercept by Potter. Carter Gordon's, which was a quick thinking individual opportunity although was from a knock on if being realistic. Josh Fluke scored v Japan off our ONLY backline move. Joe Schmidt is our attack coach. He gets talked up as a great coach and I believe we have the talent. So what the hell is he doing with our backline?

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Isn’t going to take much to land the Wallabies 10 gig. He was a stand out for the Rebels at a 7/10 for the year in a season where their performance seems to have grown in people’s minds the further it gets away.

 

[Yoda]

Isn’t going to take much to land the Wallabies 10 gig. He was a stand out for the Rebels at a 7/10 for the year in a season where their performance seems to have grown in people’s minds the further it gets away.

I want to see him kicking yet. We had Kellaway kicking when Carter played. Then I saw Jake Gordon and Daugunu kicking for touch too. What is going on there?