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Ireland v Wallabies, Saturday 15/11 (Sunday morning Aus time)

Tomthumb

Tomthumb

John Thornett (49)
The end of year tour has also included Japan and Italy, so it’s hardly been murderers row. They also got two home games vs Argentina and barely won 1 of them. Got one of the worst All Blacks teams in recent memory and lost both to them
 
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rugbyAU

Peter Johnson (47)
SamoanNo8 said:
Yes, but bloody tough draw this year. Have a think:
1. Lions series - best of the UK/Ireland;
2. South Africa - all away games;
3. End of year tour - includes Ireland and France (and no games against the likes of Scotland and Wales, being more manageable opposition one might say...)
I can't think of a more challenging yearly draw in recent times.
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sure but it wasn't a great Lions side and we play the TRC sides, France, Ireland and England pretty regularly

We also had Fiji, Japan and Italy
 
JRugby2

JRugby2

Colin Windon (37)
SamoanNo8 said:
Yes, but bloody tough draw this year. Have a think:
1. Lions series - best of the UK/Ireland;
2. South Africa - all away games;
3. End of year tour - includes Ireland and France (and no games against the likes of Scotland and Wales, being more manageable opposition one might say...)
I can't think of a more challenging yearly draw in recent times.
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Challenging indeed, but in years gone by we would have been expected to beat the likes of Ireland, Argentina and France, let alone Italy...

It's no doubt a sign of the emergence of NH rugby, but also a sign of us falling further and further away. There's no reason we can't expect to be a top 6 team and therefore disappointed when we aren't
 
Mr Pilfer

Mr Pilfer

Bill McLean (32)
I agree with some of the other comments here, we have had some excellent coaches, the coaching is not the issue.

If you look at History, the Wallabies have been at their best when we have been strong in super rugby and winning titles, it all comes from the lower levels. We are still making up the numbers in super rugby Pacific and have not looked like a realistic chance of winning it for years
 
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rugbyAU

Peter Johnson (47)
KOB1987 said:
I'm a little confused by this assertion, it was stacked full of Irish and English players and both those sides flogged us. Add in the top Scots and the one good Welsh player, why is that not a great side?
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Compared to past Lions sides

They lost to Argentina, barely beat FNP and only beat Tahs and Brumbies (who were missing 8 wallabies) by 11-12 pts
 
KOB1987

KOB1987

Tim Horan (67)
Brumbies beat them in 2013. The Argentina game was an exhibition match, it was basically a BaaBaas team at that point. For the record though Argentina are ranked above us.
 
Slim 293

Slim 293

George Smith (75)
KOB1987 said:
I'm a little confused by this assertion, it was stacked full of Irish and English players and both those sides flogged us. Add in the top Scots and the one good Welsh player, why is that not a great side?
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Yep, it would be pretty odd to suggest this Lions squad was weaker to recent iterations…

I can only assume Christy said it?
 
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