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Lions Tour 2025

Sword of Justice

Alan Cameron (40)
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It’s a matter of reputational damage via association (presumably for both nations).
 

Rob42

Alan Cameron (40)



We did the same to KP and Ben Stokes so it's not like this would be something new?



Some true straw clutching going on in the UK. Sounds like we need to piss off this notion of eligibility through grandparents. It reeks too much of Colonialism and is a constant reminder of the oppression the UK carried out on the world.

Eddie Jones had the similar feedback when he was the English coach, how is this new to the Poms?
ChatGPT, write me an article about national allegiances in rugby in the style of The Guardian: oh look, here it is!
 

Tex

Greg Davis (50)
'Incendiary device masked as banter', spare me.

I reckon I'm just proud seeing a local Melbourne boy, product of Harlequins, St Kevins, Melbourne Rising and Melbourne Rebels making it big in the sport I love. Aussies getting it done!

(Fuck I can't stand patronising English twattery)
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
Anyway the reminders of Kiwi/Aussie/SA players seems to be a legitimate nerve so I say keep pressing!

I am totally on board with players playing for other countries however they qualify. We live in a globalized world and people move for opportunity.

That said, this is absolutely something we should have a bit of fun with, particularly as it has clearly struck a nerve.

The Guardian piece took a lot of license from a couple of very bland comments from Tuipulotu to say that he was annoyed etc.
 

BackRower

Frank Row (1)
All the banter to the side, its a great year of rugby and the northern hemisphere top players being in Australia playing these Lions games with the increased media, will be great for rugby in Australia leading into the rugby world cup. There is a lot of talk on all platforms about players going OS and or end up playing for other countries. Sadly with so few opportunities in Australia to play at that top level, we will have more and more pathways develop into other rugby programs OS in the coming years. So I don't hold it against any player to follow their dream and adventure out of Australia especially to Europe to play the game at the highest level they can achieve. Better than losing them to the NRL who are trying to steal all of our schoolboy up to u20s talent!
 

Derpus

Phil Waugh (73)
All the banter to the side, its a great year of rugby and the northern hemisphere top players being in Australia playing these Lions games with the increased media, will be great for rugby in Australia leading into the rugby world cup. There is a lot of talk on all platforms about players going OS and or end up playing for other countries. Sadly with so few opportunities in Australia to play at that top level, we will have more and more pathways develop into other rugby programs OS in the coming years. So I don't hold it against any player to follow their dream and adventure out of Australia especially to Europe to play the game at the highest level they can achieve. Better than losing them to the NRL who are trying to steal all of our schoolboy up to u20s talent!
French recruiter?
 

BackRower

Frank Row (1)
French recruiter?
Nah, say it as I see it ozzie rugby fanatic from nsw! Sadly to many young players choosing to go abroad early in their rugby career (France, Scotland, England & Japan to name a few) or who become lost into the growing NRL machine, because there are limited opportunities transitioning to elite/professional level outside Sydney & Brisbane where the comps are strongest. We still have work to do on our pathway programs in oz and in offering more opportunities for high level game exposure.
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
All the banter to the side, its a great year of rugby and the northern hemisphere top players being in Australia playing these Lions games with the increased media, will be great for rugby in Australia leading into the rugby world cup. There is a lot of talk on all platforms about players going OS and or end up playing for other countries. Sadly with so few opportunities in Australia to play at that top level, we will have more and more pathways develop into other rugby programs OS in the coming years. So I don't hold it against any player to follow their dream and adventure out of Australia especially to Europe to play the game at the highest level they can achieve. Better than losing them to the NRL who are trying to steal all of our schoolboy up to u20s talent!
Yep while not liking to see young players going overseas, can kind of understand it. Outside of rugby even, look how many young people do the OE for a couple of years, I think a change of lifestyle helps, and with so many grades of semi and fully pro rugby for players must be really attractive. I coached a team of kids in Levin in NZ, where 4 of them eventually played semi pro in NH while enjoying the different lifestyle. Had a nephew who went over as well. and know quite a number , just from a little place like that who went.
I agree pathways help, but not all kids see making it as a pro player in SH, so perhaps go overseas and some actually develop a little later and do well over there in bigger pro set ups?
 
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