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NSW AAGPS 2025

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Here for the advice

Allen Oxlade (6)
U16s - does it provide much colour two years on for Opens? With fellas developing, injuries new joiners and the year below playing in Opens as well.

The U16’s in 2023 when very few from the schools played up in opens (maybe joeys had a couple and view). The table below: View on top of both A/B’s and the rest super close except New’s B and Kings dominated U15’s.

When teams announced would be good to see where they came through the ranks! wonder if any moved from B’s or below to 1s! I am sure there are a few.
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Peter Burge (5)
Here for the advice said:
U16s - does it provide much colour two years on for Opens? With fellas developing, injuries new joiners and the year below playing in Opens as well.

The U16’s in 2023 when very few from the schools played up in opens (maybe joeys had a couple and view). The table below: View on top of both A/B’s and the rest super close except New’s B and Kings dominated U15’s.

When teams announced would be good to see where they came through the ranks! wonder if any moved from B’s or below to 1s! I am sure there are a few.View attachment 21743
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In 2023 Joeys U16 had 5 play in opens and 3 of the best forwards miss the entire season or close to it with injury.
 
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Peter Burge (5)
Here for the advice said:
And is it the same 3 out with injury ? Hope not!
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1 is, the other 2 were in the class of 24. The only View U16 player that played up was Hartman and he played in his year group the whole way through. Essentially View was uninterrupted and Joey despite being down half there best team still beat them in the second round. 16’s is a historically poor guide to opens results.
 
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Peter Burge (5)
Knox_to_win said:
Joeys S&C program might need a review.. every game and season they seem to be missing 8 - 10 players needing extra time to ‘heal.’
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Thanks for the input Knoxy. Currently there are only 2 probables out, 1 is a broken foot from an unlucky twist in a tackle, probably can’t put that down to conditioning. The other is a hammy so perhaps that is S&C or load management. There’s another possible out but he seems to always be out. BTW, what paddock is the Knox pack grazing in? A few have really bulked up over the past year. S&C on the upper North Shore may need to refocus.
 
The Ghost of Raelene

The Ghost of Raelene

Phil Kearns (64)
Here for the advice said:
U16s - does it provide much colour two years on for Opens? With fellas developing, injuries new joiners and the year below playing in Opens as well.

The U16’s in 2023 when very few from the schools played up in opens (maybe joeys had a couple and view). The table below: View on top of both A/B’s and the rest super close except New’s B and Kings dominated U15’s.

When teams announced would be good to see where they came through the ranks! wonder if any moved from B’s or below to 1s! I am sure there are a few.View attachment 21743
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It does. But, it also has to be taken into consideration the amount of boys from other Schools playing up in Opens.

You can also read into this and say if a School has a lot of boys playing up the program isn't as deep with top level talent. I personally think there is a benefit to letting boys play together who will move through into Opens together.
 
Morgan Freeman

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Frank Nicholson (4)
Crashy said:
Yeah a lot of the team who gave Waverley 3rds a smacking were moved to the 4ths which suggests some good depth - after the reserves were released from the higher teams. 4ths gave Barker a 60+ point pounding as well which suggest some depth in the middle grades.
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Them vs Joeys this week should be a "Clash of the Titans" type of match you would say
 
The President

The President

Chris McKivat (8)
Here for the advice said:
U16s - does it provide much colour two years on for Opens? With fellas developing, injuries new joiners and the year below playing in Opens as well.

The U16’s in 2023 when very few from the schools played up in opens (maybe joeys had a couple and view). The table below: View on top of both A/B’s and the rest super close except New’s B and Kings dominated U15’s.

When teams announced would be good to see where they came through the ranks! wonder if any moved from B’s or below to 1s! I am sure there are a few.View attachment 21743
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Riverview appear to have a dominant 16s age group. In reality they had multiple boys from the year above come and play down in their respective age group because they were young. Can't see them being anywhere near as dominant this year...
 
Joker

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While I admire schools that aim to put a straight yr 12 cohort in their premier team, I come from the old school of thinking which is thus.
"If you are good enough then play in the top team."
I know Joeys started to select yr 10 boys to play two decades ago and since then there have been many.
When you select yr 10 students into the senior teams that will of course leave a hole in that cohort.
Since Joeys have been uplifting under 16 players, the 16A's have not been as competitive.

#FUN FACT. Maurice Whelan played in the Joeys 1st XV for four years starting in yr 8! (High school was only 5 years then)
 
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Ted Fahey (11)
Joker said:
While I admire schools that aim to put a straight yr 12 cohort in their premier team, I come from the old school of thinking which is thus.
"If you are good enough then play in the top team."
I know Joeys started to select yr 10 boys to play two decades ago and since then there have been many.
When you select yr 10 students into the senior teams that will of course leave a hole in that cohort.
Since Joeys have been uplifting under 16 players, the 16A's have not been as competitive.

#FUN FACT. Maurice Whelan played in the Joeys 1st XV for four years starting in yr 8! (High school was only 5 years then)
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Whay year Joker roughly would have that been? I know Kenny Catchpole played in year 9.
 
keenas

keenas

Herbert Moran (7)
Joker said:
While I admire schools that aim to put a straight yr 12 cohort in their premier team, I come from the old school of thinking which is thus.
"If you are good enough then play in the top team."
I know Joeys started to select yr 10 boys to play two decades ago and since then there have been many.
When you select yr 10 students into the senior teams that will of course leave a hole in that cohort.
Since Joeys have been uplifting under 16 players, the 16A's have not been as competitive.

#FUN FACT. Maurice Whelan played in the Joeys 1st XV for four years starting in yr 8! (High school was only 5 years then)
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Gee what an achievement , I guess similar to Sualli
 
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