Hi Grievous - Certainly there is potential for divided competitions, however as you suggest we are a long way off that scenario. However I believe our best way forward is to grow our newly established Junior District. It is my contention that there are sufficient kids in outer western Sydney to commence a significant number of new clubs. This will not happen over night, however it will happen. The reason outer western Sydney has not embraced junior rugby in the past is that it has lacked appropriate management. To clarify this statement - it is not meant as a criticism of the ARU Development Officers as they do a great job with limited resources, or for that matter anyone else who has had a go at cracking this tough nut. It is my view that the real problem has been a lack of a formal management structure. This was never really going to be resolved until the senior Penrith Club's board got behind such a project. The new board of 2011 thankfully recognised this and has embraced the formation of the new junior district in 2012. Upon hearing of our plans, Penrith was approached by Hawkesbury Valley to come aboard and later a decision was made by Rooty Hill to also come aboard. I understand Parramatta's disappointment that these two clubs made a decision to change their allegiances however at least geographically it is a logical decision. It needs to be understood that Parramatta is 25kms from Bondi - Penrith is 45kms from Parramatta. Considering that the bulk of Sydney's population lives within that 45kms it just shows what the potential for Penrith as a Shute Shield Club is. Our first commitment as a Junior District is the holding of a minis gala event over 3 consecutive Friday nights (from 9.3.12) with the assistance of Hawkesbury Valley, Rooty Hill and Blue Mountains. We have also sent out brochures to all the local schools and have made a number of press releases in the relation to the event. We are hopeful that we get sufficient interest from kids in areas such as North Penrith, Glenmore Park and St Marys - St Clair - Minchinbury to start Clubs this year in those areas. The synergy of the three established clubs along with an involvement from the senior club should generate sufficient interest to start some new clubs. I can say that the energy and experience of members of those three successful junior clubs has been awsome and has given our campaign a boost beyond what we originally envisaged for our first year as a junior district. The senior Penrith club had to realise that we needed to divert valuable resources away from running the senior club to start the junior district and that decision, although draining has already paid dividends for the senior club. It has been said in earlier comments within this forum that 'everyone loves a winner'. This is so true and as a result of poor results at the Shute Shield level over many years, the Penrith Rugby brand within the community has no credibility - and rightfully so - if you want to gain a return for your investment as a local business - you want to be associated with a winner - not a habitual loser. Tragically our local young talent has formed the same opinion and that is why Parramatta, Eastwood and West Harbour have been a more attractive playing option for Colts. Hence the formation of the new junior district. We envisage that by embracing our juniors - and growing them through what will become a very strong junior representative district, they will automatically want to play with their 'home' senior club. We are drilling down to the finer points of how to make this happen. Lets face it, if Penrith could get back all the local home grown talent eg Dave Dennis and Kurtley Beale as well as the significant number of blokes travelling from west of Blacktown to other Shute Shield Clubs - we would already have the basis for a competitive club. We've now dug the garden bed, tilled the soil and are preparing the seedlings. All we need to do is plant, keep the water up and the weeds down with a bit of pesticide and manure and we should be reaping our rewards down the track.