Rebels 2023

[Tex]

Super interesting to read, Reg, thanks for sharing.

I wonder if the Pacific Island unions get compensation for the development of players?

 

[Rebel man]

World Rugby already has grounds for it.

I feel as if when players are recruited internationally than there needs to be a transfer fee. But when it’s within a domestic competition then I don’t feel we need a transfer fee

 

[RugbyReg]

I feel as if when players are recruited internationally than there needs to be a transfer fee. But when it’s within a domestic competition then I don’t feel we need a transfer fee

of course YOU would feel that. Me, on the other hand, feels otherwise.

 

[swingpass]

Even your Captain doesn't want to stay there

and we have a winner !
(Touche)

 

[GoMelbRebels]

i don’t mind players moving about, but if Rebels are approaching players who are signed already and encouraging them to break contract. Then that’s an issue.

Brumbies did that to us with Valetini, so…

 

[Slim 293]

Brumbies did that to us with Valetini, so…

Did they?

I can't find anything to suggest that was ever the case...

 

[Derpus]

Super interesting to read, Reg, thanks for sharing.

I wonder if the Pacific Island unions get compensation for the development of players?

The transfer fee only applies to players under contract.

That's why you rarely ever see them - contracts are rarely for longer than a year or two and, even if the desire was there, there isn't really enough money in Rugby to piss away on transfer fees.

 

[Rebel man]

of course YOU would feel that. Me, on the other hand, feels otherwise.

Maybe complain about the lack of transfer fees in the Reds thread.

 

[RugbyReg]

Maybe complain about the lack of transfer fees in the Reds thread.

maybe point out where I was complaining about it here...

 

[GoMelbRebels]

Did they?

I can't find anything to suggest that was ever the case...

You have to know the right people, I guess. No contract signed, but handshake and understanding.

 

[Slim 293]

You have to know the right people, I guess. No contract signed, but handshake and understanding.

Ah, so I was correct... it didn't happen.

 

[GoMelbRebels]

Ah, so I was correct... it didn't happen.

Exactly, like Stewart not signing a contract extension with the Reds. Not binding. If the Reds so dearly wanted to keep Stewart I would have expected them to sign him on during the season. It’s like the person deciding they love their partner as they are walking out the door with a packed bag. “Oh, please come back, I actually want you here!”.

 

[Adam84]

Exactly, like Stewart not signing a contract extension with the Reds. Not binding. If the Reds so dearly wanted to keep Stewart I would have expected them to sign him on during the season. It’s like the person deciding they love their partner as they are walking out the door with a packed bag. “Oh, please come back, I actually want you here!”.

I dunno, the official media statement on this seems to contradict your theory.

happy for players to move around, but i hope teams aren’t approaching players encouraging them to break contracts.

 

[Tex]

Just for the sake of the debate, clause b covers the Valetini situation:

(b) a Non-Contract Player enters into a written agreement for the first time with a Union, Rugby Body or Club outside his Home Union, his Home Union (or Rugby Body or Club in membership of his Home Union as the case may be) shall be entitled to compensation for his training and/or development.

Wonder if QLD paid VRU compensation for Hunter Paisami...?

 

[Tex]

Will the move to central contracting essentially place RA as the relevant home union, negating this sort of nonsense?

 

[Adam84]

Will the move to central contracting essentially place Rugby Australia as the relevant home union, negating this sort of nonsense?

Maybe, but stuff like this will certainly upset some powerbrokers, it’s not the kind of harmony you’d want if you’re pushing for national consensus on key decisions.

 

[Ignoto]

Wonder if QLD paid VRU compensation for Hunter Paisami...?

What for, the Rebels terminated the contract?

 

[Tex]

Per the nonsensical clause b, he'd be a non contract player and his home union would be eligible for compensation for his training and development.

It's a load of horseshit but the red jowled rah rah boys in Dublin decree it!

 

[Rugbynutter39]

who cares i'm just hoping we can screw the Force again

(still too soon ?)

Gees just when I thought the rebels - force thing might have died down. Don’t go there.

 

[hifflepiff]

Gees just when I thought the rebels - force thing might have died down. Don’t go there.

I encourage it, Rugby rivalries in Aus are way too whitebread.

Could use some more bad blood.