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RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Potentially all of them - no problems with any of them but it'll take more time to tell.

I really like the effect of the advantage changes, though I know Larkham didn't like them after the Brumbies trial. That may just make me like them more though.

yeah that was the stand out for me but thinking about it the Five-second ruck (strict compliance from use it call) law was good too. No caterpillar rucks and now slow set up box kicks
 

PhilClinton

Jim Lenehan (48)
I agree I thought the game speed was good and the rule changes definitely played a part.

I do hope we are wary about implementing them on a trial basis at Super Rugby though.

I feel like the ruck speed rule is one which a lot of international teams might take issue with up North and would be hard to get it over the line. There is a fine line between showcasing the new rules but also then setting our players up for failure when those rules aren’t used in test matches. Might not be the best idea before a RWC.
 
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Wilson

Mark Loane (55)
I agree I thought the game speed was good and the rule changes definitely played a part.

I do hope we are wary about implementing them on a trial basis at Super Rugby though.

I feel like the ruck speed rule is one which a lot of international teams might take issue with up North and would be hard to get it over the line. There is a fine line between showcasing the new rules but also then setting our players up for failure when those rules aren’t used in test matches. Might not be the best idea before a RWC.
From what I've heard the only ones being looked at for super rugby next year will be the ones based on applying/interpreting existing laws, particularly the shot clock and ruck speed ones. Anything else (like the lineout and scrum changes) will wait until post world cup. Not sure where the advantage falls in that, but I'm guessing they'll see it as too big a change for this year, particularly if there is already opposition amongst coaches.
 

PhilClinton

Jim Lenehan (48)
From what I've heard the only ones being looked at for super rugby next year will be the ones based on applying/interpreting existing laws, particularly the shot clock and ruck speed ones. Anything else (like the lineout and scrum changes) will wait until post world cup. Not sure where the advantage falls in that, but I'm guessing they'll see it as too big a change for this year, particularly if there is already opposition amongst coaches.

I actually think the advantage rule changes are good to keep trialling because they are situational and even if it isn't taken up (which unfortunately is the likely outcome) the net effect on the teams going back to the old rule won't be too different. Just keep playing with advantage.

Things like changes in the ruck speed which alter the pace of the game, fitness levels, game tactics etc will having a much bigger effect on players going back to the old rules.
 

Wilson

Mark Loane (55)
I've been trying to work out what the open spots are for the Japan game and I've come up with open spots at 7, 14 and 20, based on this team

1 Zander
2 Faessler
3 Nonggorr
4 Smith
5 A. Blyth
6 Uru
7 OPEN
8 Tauakipulu
9 Thomas
10 Creighton
11 Daugunu
12 Henry
13 Flook
14 OPEN
15 Grealy

16 Blake
17 Asiata
18 Fa'agase
19 W. Blyth
20 OPEN
21 Jeans
22 Lynagh
23 Aubrey

Obviously this is dependent on the EOYT squad as well but this is what feels likely right now. I could see Aubrey starting, but I think they're more likely to bring in a specialist winger (Fittock and Oates the front runners).

I'd have Anderson as the 7, the 20 could be Wallis though I'm not sure they'll go with both next year so it might make more sense to look at a bigger body. I'm not sure anyone really stands out though.

The last question there is around props/hookers - I wouldn't be surprised if they left Blake at home to bring Dobbins instead, or run Asiata at hooker and look at another option at prop.
 

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Michael Lynagh (62)
I've been trying to work out what the open spots are for the Japan game and I've come up with open spots at 7, 14 and 20, based on this team

1 Zander
2 Faessler
3 Nonggorr
4 Smith
5 A. Blyth
6 Uru
7 OPEN
8 Tauakipulu
9 Thomas
10 Creighton
11 Daugunu
12 Henry
13 Flook
14 OPEN
15 Grealy

16 Blake
17 Asiata
18 Fa'agase
19 W. Blyth
20 OPEN
21 Jeans
22 Lynagh
23 Aubrey

Obviously this is dependent on the EOYT squad as well but this is what feels likely right now. I could see Aubrey starting, but I think they're more likely to bring in a specialist winger (Fittock and Oates the front runners).

I'd have Anderson as the 7, the 20 could be Wallis though I'm not sure they'll go with both next year so it might make more sense to look at a bigger body. I'm not sure anyone really stands out though.

The last question there is around props/hookers - I wouldn't be surprised if they left Blake at home to bring Dobbins instead, or run Asiata at hooker and look at another option at prop.
What's Wright doing? Is he in the URC?
 

The Nomad

Dick Tooth (41)
I've been trying to work out what the open spots are for the Japan game and I've come up with open spots at 7, 14 and 20, based on this team

1 Zander
2 Faessler
3 Nonggorr
4 Smith
5 A. Blyth
6 Uru
7 OPEN
8 Tauakipulu
9 Thomas
10 Creighton
11 Daugunu
12 Henry
13 Flook
14 OPEN
15 Grealy

16 Blake
17 Asiata
18 Fa'agase
19 W. Blyth
20 OPEN
21 Jeans
22 Lynagh
23 Aubrey

Obviously this is dependent on the EOYT squad as well but this is what feels likely right now. I could see Aubrey starting, but I think they're more likely to bring in a specialist winger (Fittock and Oates the front runners).

I'd have Anderson as the 7, the 20 could be Wallis though I'm not sure they'll go with both next year so it might make more sense to look at a bigger body. I'm not sure anyone really stands out though.

The last question there is around props/hookers - I wouldn't be surprised if they left Blake at home to bring Dobbins instead, or run Asiata at hooker and look at another option at prop.
Wilson , think the open spots might come down to who can go. Would imagine that not all would be in a position to go if asked. Wallis has been contracted so likely to be available. Agree would have Anderson there, but not sure what he does for a day job.

Tom Milosevic and Alex Smit were the other two 7/20’s from the weekend. Connor Pritchard and Conor Mitchell would be another two possibilities maybe? Either that or take Nic Baker from the Academy.

Kai Oats gets my vote for the vacant wing spot.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
Predictably a number of changes to both sides. Grealy to 12 most fascinating.

Queensland Reds Development XV


1. Dane Zander | University of Queensland
2. George Blake | Bond University | Gold Coast
3. Zane Nonggorr | Bond University | Gold Coast
4. Wilson Blyth | Bond University | Gold Coast
5. Angus Blyth (c) | Bond University | Gold Coast
6. Taine Roiri | Easts
7. Connor Anderson | Wests
8. Sam Wallis | University of Queensland
9. Kalani Thomas | University of Queensland
10. Tom Lynagh | University of Queensland
11. Joey Fittock | Bond University | Gold Coast
12. Mac Grealy | University of Queensland | Darling Downs
13. Josh Flook | Brothers
14. Cooper Whiteside | Wests
15. Floyd Aubrey | GPS | Cherbourg
16. Matt Faessler | Brothers | Darling Downs
17. Sef Fa’agase | University of Queensland
18. Phransis Sula-Siaosi | Souths
19. Keynan Tauakipulu | Wests
20. Tom Milosevic | Easts
21. Spencer Jeans | Bond University | Gold Coast
22. Lawson Creighton | Brothers
23. Conor Chittenden | Norths

President’s XV

1. Levi Samuela | Bond University | Gold Coast
2. Ethan Dobbins | Wests
3. Latu Talakai | Wests
4. Zac Shepherd | Easts
5. Pat Morrey (vc) | University of Queensland | Far North Queensland
6. Connor Pritchard | Bond University
7. Alex Smit | Easts Far North Queensland
8. Ratu Vio Batibasaga | GPS
9. Eli Pilz (c) | Easts | Sunshine Coast
10. Tayler Adams | Brothers
11. Ben Navosailagi | Wests
12. Tom Lucas | Sunnybank | Central Queensland
13. Dan Boardman | Bond University
14. Sam Hyne | Brothers
15. Kye Oates | University of Queensland | Darling Downs
16. Liam Usher | Wests
17. JP Tominiko | Easts
18. Rhys Sheriff | Bond University | Gold Coast
19. Jake Upfield | Bond University | Gold Coast
20. Jonte Connolly | Brothers | Caboolture
21. Louis Werchon | Brothers | Sunshine Coast
22. Brad Twidale | University of Queensland | Darling Downs
23. Tyler Campbell | Bond University | Gold Coast
 
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Predictably a number of changes to both sides. Grealy to 12 most fascinating.

Queensland Reds Development XV


1. Dane Zander | University of Queensland
2. George Blake | Bond University | Gold Coast
3. Zane Nonggorr | Bond University | Gold Coast
4. Wilson Blyth | Bond University | Gold Coast
5. Angus Blyth (c) | Bond University | Gold Coast
6. Taine Roiri | Easts
7. Connor Anderson | Wests
8. Sam Wallis | University of Queensland
9. Kalani Thomas | University of Queensland
10. Tom Lynagh | University of Queensland
11. Joey Fittock | Bond University | Gold Coast
12. Mac Grealy | University of Queensland | Darling Downs
13. Josh Flook | Brothers
14. Cooper Whiteside | Wests
15. Floyd Aubrey | GPS | Cherbourg
16. Matt Faessler | Brothers | Darling Downs
17. Sef Fa’agase | University of Queensland
18. Phransis Sula-Siaosi | Souths
19. Keynan Tauakipulu | Wests
20. Tom Milosevic | Easts
21. Spencer Jeans | Bond University | Gold Coast
22. Lawson Creighton | Brothers
23. Conor Chittenden | Norths

President’s XV

1. Levi Samuela | Bond University | Gold Coast
2. Ethan Dobbins | Wests
3. Latu Talakai | Wests
4. Zac Shepherd | Easts
5. Pat Morrey (vc) | University of Queensland | Far North Queensland
6. Connor Pritchard | Bond University
7. Alex Smit | Easts Far North Queensland
8. Ratu Vio Batibasaga | GPS
9. Eli Pilz (c) | Easts | Sunshine Coast
10. Tayler Adams | Brothers
11. Ben Navosailagi | Wests
12. Tom Lucas | Sunnybank | Central Queensland
13. Dan Boardman | Bond University
14. Sam Hyne | Brothers
15. Kye Oates | University of Queensland | Darling Downs
16. Liam Usher | Wests
17. JP Tominiko | Easts
18. Rhys Sheriff | Bond University | Gold Coast
19. Jake Upfield | Bond University | Gold Coast
20. Jonte Connolly | Brothers | Caboolture
21. Louis Werchon | Brothers | Sunshine Coast
22. Brad Twidale | University of Queensland | Darling Downs
23. Tyler Campbell | Bond University | Gold Coast

12 players from Bond
1 from Souths
1 from Sunnybank
1 from Norths
7 from Wests
6 from Easts
7 from Brothers
2 from GPS
9 from UQ
Wonder what clubs will be out recruiting the next gun youngsters?
 

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Simon Poidevin (60)
12 players from Bond
1 from Souths
1 from Sunnybank
1 from Norths
7 from Wests
6 from Easts
7 from Brothers
2 from GPS
9 from UQ
Wonder what clubs will be out recruiting the next gun youngsters?
Not sure the purpose of the stats but it’s pretty irrelevant given plenty of QPR players are away with Australia A at the moment and quite a few have also been given train and trial contracts with other Super Rugby clubs.

if you’re going to compare clubs, then you’d need to include the Aussie A and Rebels touring squad, and Brumbies trial and train players
 
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The Nomad

Dick Tooth (41)
Yeah agree Reg , Grealy has played a little 13 for UQ but not any 12 that I'm aware of. He is not really your "second playmaker" type fullback that can often slot into 10/12, more of a ball runner/finisher. Will be interesting to see how he handles the position.

Good to see Anderson get a crack at 7 and Pritchard a start for the President's XV. Both these guys have had very good QPR seasons and are genuine lineout options.

Interested to see how Lynagh goes , thought Creighton was great last week, hopefully Tom has a blinder and we start gaining confidence in our 10 stocks.
 
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Not sure the purpose of the stats but it’s pretty irrelevant given plenty of QPR players are away with Australia A at the moment and quite a few have also been given train and trial contracts with other Super Rugby clubs.

if you’re going to compare clubs, then you’d need to include the Aussie A and Rebels touring squad, and Brumbies trial and train players
The comment was about what clubs might be looking for troops.

Some clubs that will have players committed elsewhere ( ie Reds) might have vacancies in their roster
Some clubs dont have as strong rosters might be keen to recruit
 

PhilClinton

Jim Lenehan (48)
Flook is the one I'll be keen to see the most - compared the other backs in the squad he's a veteran Super Rugby player (21 caps). I'm a broken record but I think he can really nail down that 13 spot for the Reds. It's a shame he was injured last year, or I reckon he would have got the nod for the Aussie A side, as their centre combos have been one of the weaker aspects.

Will be interesting to see Tayler Adams as well, he's on the radar for a Super Rugby contract. I don't he's played 10 for a while though, played pretty much all the second round of QPR at fullback.
 

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Bill McLean (32)
Flook is the one I'll be keen to see the most - compared the other backs in the squad he's a veteran Super Rugby player (21 caps). I'm a broken record but I think he can really nail down that 13 spot for the Reds. It's a shame he was injured last year, or I reckon he would have got the nod for the Aussie A side, as their centre combos have been one of the weaker aspects.
Will be particularly interesting if both Flook and Henry have strong runs at 13. Could be a nice arm wrestle for 12/13/22 as the season plays out.
 
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