Foster relationships with country regions.
Something I've suggested for sometime with SU. Coming from Macarthur, I'm sure that you recall that I have long had the view that SU should be given the area to develop.
Noting that the university has an agriculture and veterinary science campus at Camden.
At the very least they'd have to separate the professional arm and the community arm.
Coming back to this point, and talking about the University "clubs". I agree that Sydney University represents a resource that could be more of a force for the good for the wider game. However, I am dubious that the powers that be at Camperdown would necessarily see things the way that others might. Looking at it from their point of view, what on earth is in it for them to spend time and effort cultivating the game in Campbelltown, to use your example?
If there is to be a professional domestic competition, with maybe a dozen franchises, SU would obviously be one of the strongest candidates in the nation. Would they accept obligations that they would not see are in their own interests?
Other possible Sydney candidates would presumably be amalgamations or alliances of existing district clubs. Nurturing the game in their home territories would make sense to them, and would be in their self-interest.
IMHO the best single condition that could be placed on a Sydney University entrant would be that their playing stocks must all be genuine undergraduates. That would be controversial, maybe they would refuse, but if they accepted it they would be doing a helluva lot more for the game in Greater Sydney than by paying lip service to Campbelltown (as worthy as that area is of development: I remember going there many years ago, having rounded up a couple or three retired Wallabies for a club dinner, at the request of one of my mates who lived there).
I get people hate uni etc. however that aside bit hard to argue a very large % of their players go onto a professional opportunity. Isn’t that the real end game for Shute shield clubs?
I get people hate uni etc. however that aside bit hard to argue a very large % of their players go onto a professional opportunity. Isn’t that the real end game for Shute shield clubs? If not what up and coming player would sign up For that club.
Yes, I think we all know that. The simple fact is that SU not a club, it is an institution within which one sport offered is rugby. Some of the overheads that the other genuine District Clubs have to bear in their entirety are shared with other sports and (gasp) are subsidised by the public purse, or the student body as a whole.
A tertiary institution, particularly one as well endowed as SU, has inbuilt advantages when it comes to recruitment, some of those advantages will never be available to the real District Clubs. SU has a guaranteed input of rugby talent.
For the game to prosper once again, the playing field simply has to be made a bit more level. How is it in the game's interests for this elite ivory tower to dominate the competition, without any requirement on it to spread the game more widely within a catchment area?
I'm not a follower of the Sydney University Club, but your post is an oversimplification of the reasons for their success.
SURUFC is in fact a club. Students at SU can play for whatever club they so choose. Also, one doesn't have to attend SU to play for that club.Some of their players don't attend SU. SURUFC recruit players from outside of that institution just as other clubs recruit.Some students at SU play for other clubs.
Whatever inbuilt advantages that club has was not evident when on two occasions they were dropped to second division in the past.Why ? At that time they were no better off financially than other clubs,& so they decided to remedy that, & they are now a well run & financially well off group.That is the principal basis of their success .
As much as I'd like to see other clubs share some of their success,I can only say good luck to them.
As far as SU having an advantage over other clubs, what about the advantage that your Eastwood club has ,inasmuch as
that they have their ground donated to them by a wealthy benefactor, & I am given to understand ,
the ground has been sold for a large amount of money, rendering them at a greater advantage over all other clubs, even that from SU?
Wam, not sure when you were last there. Still a bit shabby I know, but the students have made a few improvements for spectators.