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Subbies 2021

The Year Of

Allen Oxlade (6)
Well the news today must be the end of the season.

No training or games for 6 weeks would cause blokes to need a couple of weeks training before any restart and that starts to push us out to mid Aug. Subbies need to make a decision now.
 

Pfitzy

David Wilson (68)
Subbies need to make a decision now.


Can't make a decision unless you know when lockdown is going to end. Simply cutting the season off at the knees would be a shame if we can still get in a couple of weeks with a shortened finals series.

The issue is going to be ground availability.
 

BundyBear

Bob McCowan (2)
There must be some hope.

I would say we have until September 4th to get back on. Any saturdays prior to this day will just be an extra round. The competition could play the last two games (September 4th and 11th) which provides a nice even number of 10 competition games played for most grades. This means not everyone will play each other twice, but that is the fate of the year.

This would leave us with finals on the 18th and 25th of September. I would assume that all of these covid delays will also effect cricket pre season so they may also enjoy a later start.
 

Pfitzy

David Wilson (68)
Good plan - definitely playing into October is off the cards with pretty much everyone who has a cricket oval on their ground(s).

If finals goes from 3 weeks down to 2, then clubs will want 2 weeks of competition to try and push into top 4 while getting their combinations back on the field, and at least 2 weeks training to get back into the swing.

So we'd probably need to be back training with full contact no later than 16th August - tho our blokes would be happy with 1 training sesh :)

The question is which 2 weeks of the regular competition would be scheduled ;)
 

BJT

Bob McCowan (2)
Good plan - definitely playing into October is off the cards with pretty much everyone who has a cricket oval on their ground(s).

If finals goes from 3 weeks down to 2, then clubs will want 2 weeks of competition to try and push into top 4 while getting their combinations back on the field, and at least 2 weeks training to get back into the swing.

So we'd probably need to be back training with full contact no later than 16th August - tho our blokes would be happy with 1 training sesh :)

The question is which 2 weeks of the regular competition would be scheduled ;)
I would say minimum of 3 weeks of competition before finals is necessary to make is worthwhile, otherwise you might as well just go straight to finals based on the current standings. Good luck getting players to turn up for 2 games if their team is already out of it, you'll just end up with guys playing playing multiple games and a mountain of injuries.
 

Pfitzy

David Wilson (68)
I would say minimum of 3 weeks of competition before finals is necessary to make is worthwhile, otherwise you might as well just go straight to finals based on the current standings.


There are still a few top 4 spots to decide.

And don't underestimate the need for blokes to get back on the pitch even for a couple of weeks after lockdown - rugby and beer!
 

Sanka

Frank Row (1)
My suggestion would be a 3 week competition, quarter finals, semi's and final, That way everyone has something to play for and your current standing still comes into play.

Week 1: 1v8, 2v7, 3v6, 4v5

Week 2: 1v8 winner plays 4v5 winner, 2v7 winner plays 3v6 winner

Week 3: Grand final.
 

Pfitzy

David Wilson (68)
^^^ That's actually quite an interesting take - knockout footy - every game counts!

Wonder how we'd handle Open Selection in that case tho ;)
 

Prodigy

Syd Malcolm (24)
My suggestion would be a 3 week competition, quarter finals, semi's and final, That way everyone has something to play for and your current standing still comes into play.

Week 1: 1v8, 2v7, 3v6, 4v5

Week 2: 1v8 winner plays 4v5 winner, 2v7 winner plays 3v6 winner

Week 3: Grand final.

Funnily enough have suggested this on the Subbies Facebook group in great detail.
 

Ozzie Bob

Ted Thorn (20)
If lockdown is continued for another 4 weeks surely that will mean finishing the season is impossible?

I feel for everyone involved. Having been stuck in the various lockdowns in London over the last 18 months and not being able to get back to Oz to see family it's been a tough time, but not having subbies running makes it worse!
 

The Year Of

Allen Oxlade (6)
Did I miss something?? I whole heap of post disappeared.

Someone must have been naughty like the old days of the subbies forum
 

WoodyWoodsman

Bob McCowan (2)
You heard it here first…. But sources will not be leaked.
Subbies are planning for 2022 to be a 10 club Division 1, maintaining 7 current clubs, 2 from Division 2 and 1 from Division 3. Clubs will be required to have 4 grades and colts. 5th grade optional. Division 2 remains 8, with the high possibility that A certain dislodged SS club in there. Clubs will be told what division they are in, no choices. It’s this division or nothing.
 

Prodigy

Syd Malcolm (24)
You heard it here first…. But sources will not be leaked.
Subbies are planning for 2022 to be a 10 club Division 1, maintaining 7 current clubs, 2 from Division 2 and 1 from Division 3. Clubs will be required to have 4 grades and colts. 5th grade optional. Division 2 remains 8, with the high possibility that A certain dislodged SS club in there. Clubs will be told what division they are in, no choices. It’s this division or nothing.
I wonder if anyone will be able to confirm this. It’s a bold move if Subbies go this way.
 

Pfitzy

David Wilson (68)
I don't know if it is possible to make that kind of call this early.

Attrition from 2 COVID-interrupted seasons could be significant for a lot of clubs; people who haven't been able to travel for a couple of years, with vaccination potentially opening up new doors.

But for a moment, let's entertain the possibility 2 clubs could go up from 2nd Division - Hunters Hill and St Pats being the obvious candidates. We need to cascade what that looks like for other divisions.

You're now left with 6 clubs in Div 2 - well except Old Barker are unlikely to stay, so now you're down to 5. Let's also assume the SS club going into Div 2 is Penrith - the same Penrith who struggled to put out 2 teams this year. :confused: Having them field 4 Grades + Colts in 2nd Div seems like a stretch ... but OK we're back to 6 clubs in Div 2.

Where are the other 2 clubs coming from to make 8? Iggies and Beecroft? Count out everyone else in Div 3, but even then I'm not sure either club wants this.

If it happened, Div 3 is down to 6 clubs, and HAC and Blacktown are hanging on by the skin of their teeth. So does Div 3 just disappear for 2021? Div 4 might benefit in terms of numbers, of course...

Seems like a mountain to climb, to me.
 

BJT

Bob McCowan (2)
Might be handy for an evenly competitive Division 2 comp, but can't see the logic otherwise.
 
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