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Super Rugby Pacific 2025

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Greg Davis (50)
> the hopes and dreams of the Force and NSFW being decided at Eden Park

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David Wilson (68)
It's not just crooked throws, there are players moving before the ball leaves the thrower's hand, multiple halfbacks and players running up the tunnel to change positions. I'm no ref, but I believe all these are against the laws of the game.

In the time it takes for the attacking team to get into the line (while the hooker waits), the defending team line is completely encroaching on the space. This has been quite obvious, I'd call it a Kiwi tactic but to be fair I don't think it stops there. The Hooker then shifts to where the gap has formed - and the side line official gets in his face. That's a pretty big distraction for the poor bastard throwing.

I'd guess it's a tactic against slow forming line-outs and conferences by the attacking line-out, but it is definitely effecting what is happening in the line out.
 

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David Codey (61)
I reckon the tactic is the defending team line up on the mark. The attacking team then form up 1.5m-2m from the defensive line, and the hooker takes a step towards his team before the throw, so it looks straight, but it's closer to his team.

Ref's are on to this tactic, and are allowing the defending team to take their mark ~1m from the late arriving attacking team. Then the attackers step back to get their preferred large gap.

Some lineouts they basically chase each other down the field.
 

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David Wilson (68)
Interesting. It's not what I have been seeing but I'll definitely follow it closely.
 

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Greg Davis (50)
Week 10 SRS.

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Largest SRS points changes:
Chiefs +2.88 (+7.62 -> +10.50)
Brumbies +2.76 (-0.291 -> +2.47)
Drua +2.39 (-11.70 -> -9.31)
Highlanders -2.72 (-0.81 -> -3.53)

The Breez continue to surge up the rankings moving +5.08 points over the last two weeks, while the Chufs have recovered form their Sydney ambush to usurp the Evil Empire. We're now approaching a three point difference between 6th and 7th (2.57). Meaning, on average, the Force would need to score one try more than they usually do to win against the Blues (+2.84 favourites vs. Force) and Brumbies (+3.94 favourites vs. Force).
 

Dismal Pillock

Michael Lynagh (62)
At 3 and 7 the shartbrained Blues 2025 campaign should be facedown in a hospice care facility bedpan by now....... yet the hapless pricks only need 4 more competition points to qualify for the playoffs.

If the dull deluded dolts somehow conspire to beat MP (Moana Pasifika) then the last round match vs NSFW could be a very big one.
 

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George Smith (75)
Chiefs & Crusaders now eight points clear of third-placed Brumbies, I doubt they can be caught regardless of what happens when thry meet in Week 13.

Likewise Brumbies & Reds look to have third & fourth pretty much locked in with their Week 14 match likely deciding the order.

Hurricanes, Force, Waratahs & Moana can still make the QF but barring a miracle Blues & Highlanders are surely gone. Drua have three home games coming up but even if they win all of them I think ninth or tenth is the best they can hope for.
 

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John Eales (66)
Chiefs & Crusaders now eight points clear of third-placed Brumbies, I doubt they can be caught regardless of what happens when thry meet in Week 13.

Likewise Brumbies & Reds look to have third & fourth pretty much locked in with their Week 14 match likely deciding the order.

Hurricanes, Force, Waratahs & Moana can still make the QF but barring a miracle Blues & Highlanders are surely gone. Drua have three home games coming up but even if they win all of them I think ninth or tenth is the best they can hope for.
2nd is probably still open given the Crusaders play the Brumbies as well as the Chiefs - if they loose both of those their lead over 3rd/4th evaporates (depending a bit on BPs), particularly given the Brumbies game is effectively double points in that calculation. That said, I do think them and the Chiefs finishing 1 and 2 is the most likely outcome from here. Reds and Brumbies finishing order will probably be decided by their head to head match up, though both have some other tricky games coming up.

Hurricanes are firming for the 6 - even if they lose to the Chiefs and Reds, wins against the Higlanders and Moana will probably be enough given their positive points difference has them 48 points ahead of the nearest competitor (Moana). A few BPs wouldn't go astray though, pick up enough and they may even squeek in with just one more win.

Blues having match ups against the Force, tahs and Moana does keep them in touch for mine - even if the Hurricanes lock down a space that still leaves one space open and the Blues are within a win of all those teams they play (BP win in the case of the Force), so they can absolutely make up the ground. Lose any of those games and they're done though. Blues v Force this weekend will be huge, Force win and they're in the box seat with the Blues gone, if they lose than they'll likely need to win their remaining home games (Brumbies, tahs) with at least a couple of BPs along the way.

Moana and the tahs are dropping back for mine, though both still have a solid say in their future given they play some of the sides they're competing with. Tahs points difference and inability to pick up bps may sink them though, they'll likely have to get their on wins alone the way they're going.
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Blues get the Force and Tahs at Eden Park. You'd think eavy favourites for both wins and even a BP. Tahs show no ability away from home and the Force have had 50 put on them both games in NZ. The BP will be needed at the end of the year. It's the only thing keeping the Force and Canes ahead right now.
 

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Greg Davis (50)
At 3 and 7 the shartbrained Blues 2025 campaign should be facedown in a hospice care facility bedpan by now....... yet the hapless pricks only need 4 more competition points to qualify for the playoffs.

If the dull deluded dolts somehow conspire to beat MP (Moana Pasifika) (Moana Pasifika) then the last round match vs NSFW could be a very big one.

It will make it all the more funnier when they win from 6th with a 7-7 regular season record using the patented three step championship strategy.

Step 1. Charlie Faumuina to jump onto he-who-shall-not-be-named-at-halfback from the top of the Sky Tower
Step 2. Name Akira as the replacement halfback
Step 3. Play him at centre instead of his brother

Technically there's 147 steps, but this is the general gist of it.
 
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