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Sydney Colts - 2014

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Rugbymaster66

Stan Wickham (3)
The Way I see it going into Grand Finals


2014 COLTS FINALS SERIES VENUES
Match A - 1 v 6 ( Uni V East )
Match B – 3 v 4 ( Souths V Norths )
Match C – 2 v 5 ( Randwick V Manly )
Match D – Q1 v Q4 ( Uni V Souths )
Match E – Q2 v Q3 (Randwick V Norths )
Grand Final – ( Uni V Norths )

I can't see anything other than a Randwick vs Uni grand final, both are the inform teams of the season.

If I'd have to back either one I'd have to back Randwick
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Round 18 Results Summary

First Grade - W. McMahon Memorial Shield
Southern Districts 40 Gordon 10
West Harbour 20 Manly 29
Randwick 55 Northern Suburbs 25
Parramatta 72 Penrith 5
Eastern Suburbs 12 Sydney University 53
Eastwood 61 Warringah 36

Minor Premiership
Sydney University 83 points
Randwick 74 points
Southern Districts 68 points
Northern Suburbs 64 points
Manly 59 points
Eastern Suburbs 58 points

Eastwood 56 points
Parramatta 39 points
West Harbour 37 points
Warringah 23 points
Gordon 12 points
Penrith 0 points

Second Grade - Shell Trophy
Southern Districts 77 Gordon 12
West Harbour 12 Manly 41
Randwick 17 Northern Suburbs 29
Parramatta 22 Penrith 24
Eastern Suburbs 7 Sydney University 43
Eastwood 61 Warringah 0

Minor Premiership
Northern Suburbs 86 points
Sydney University 76 points
Eastwood 65 points
Manly 58 points
Southern Districts 55 points
Randwick 50 points

West Harbour 38 points
Parramatta 35 points
Eastern Suburbs 33 points
Gordon 22 points
Warringah 18 points
Penrith 15 points

Third Grade - Bill Simpson Shield
Southern Districts v The Bye
West Harbour 14 Manly 26
Randwick 12 Northern Suburbs 19
Parramatta v The Bye
Eastern Suburbs 8 Sydney University 28
Eastwood 15 Warringah 7

Minor Premiership
Sydney University 71 Points
Eastwood 53 points (154 F/A diff)
Southern Districts 53 points (65 F/A diff)
Manly 52 Points
Northern Suburbs 45 Points
West Harbour 24 Points (4 wins)
Parramatta 24 Points (3 wins)
Eastern Suburbs 21 Points
Randwick 17 Points
Warringah 16 Points



Colts Club Championship
Sydney University 858 points
Northern Suburbs 726 points
Southern Districts 671 points
Manly 640 points
Eastwood 629 points
Randwick 628 points
Eastern Suburbs 489 points
Parramatta 385 points
West Harbour 384 points
Warringah 224 points
Gordon 138 points
Penrith 45 points
 

15tc

Bob McCowan (2)
Anyone know how Norths Colts 1 Locks went?
I see they got pounded by 30 points by the Wicks - just keen to hear how the NRC player Croke went.
Hanigan & Kennedy completely dominated the encounter. I have to confess that I wasn't watching Croker. The Wicks pack, led by ODonahue,was awesome and the talented backs had a field day.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
^^^^ I'll do the summary later today when all the score sheets are published on the web site.

Uni, Norths, 2 Blues, & Gordon score sheets are not in yet.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Financial Assistance/Scholarships/Player Recruitment Strategies

What is a fair and equitable level of scholarships at clubs?
This season, the Wicks beat all comers to the prime cattle of the Aust Schoolboys 2013, signing up 6 of them.

It seems, that Uni have a whole variety of scholarships and arrangements through their elite athletes programme, and other third party deals with residential colleges etc.
Meanwhile most of the other "progressive" clubs have followed suit in some way, with between 5 and 7 "scholarships" seeming to be the norm, with these "scholarships" being about $3000-$5000 value (most in contra).

Has the Arms Race just been ratcheted up a notch with this announcement from the Wicks?
http://randwickrugby.com.au/news/2014-news/4158-rdrufc-luncheon-28-august


• In 2013 we had 7 scholarships available to our players.
• In 2014 this has expanded to 34 with a view to being 45 – 50 in 2015.
• We support all levels of study - both tertiary and TAFE, trade and skills.
• Residential colleges are a key pillar of our recruitment and retention

A perfect storm down in Brook Street with the mix of influences and approaches from Sydney Uni (Nick Ryan) and Scots College (Wade Kelly).

Can the other clubs (we know Uni can) compete with attracting and retaining talent, when the Wicks are looking to buy in up to 50 players next year (up to 15 more than this years harvest)?

How many of these lads being targeted will be from the wrong side of Anzac Parade, with no previous history of association with Randwick via the Juniors or the "local" High Schools?

What hope is there for Two Blues and Emus to compete?
2015 will see the 2 Blues lose the majority of the extraordinary Oakhill 2012 graduates as they move up to grade. One hopes that the momentum generated over the past two years, lead by the Oakhill influence, is maintained.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
That is the problem. The player points system isn't working entirely as intended, but it is a step in the right direction.

Along with the usual stats about who has scored what etc, each week, the player points have been captured in the Jarse-o-meter, ready for some analysis.

If the system was working correctly there would be a reasonable co-relation between player points and scoreboard points across a season, allowing for the odd upset victory where a champion team may have things go their way and they beat a team of champions.

There hasn't been. Notwithstanding that many clubs still appear to have applied incorrect player points to some of their players (probably laziness more than deliberate intent to cheat and deceive), Teams with similar player points to their opponents have put massive scores on their opponents on many occasions throughout the season.

Some Cases in point Hobbits Colts 1 = 23 Player points played Gordon Colts 1 = 22 player points. Final Score 40 to 10 to Hobbits. Hobbits v Parramatta. Score was 71-14 to the Hobbits despite the 2Blues having 27 player points up against 23 for the Shoeless Ones.

Beasts in Round 1 had 28 Player points (no rock stars) against 32 Player points from the Wicks (2 Aust Schoolboys, 1 Aust A, 4 players from 2012 NSW State team) Final Score was 28-14 to the Beasties.

Penrith is generally putting mid 20's Player points on the field. Not much correlation between player points differences and the scoreboard for the poor Emus.

I don't have the solution, but can say that the current player points system doesn't appear to be working all that well.
 

Tah and feathered

Watty Friend (18)
Financial Assistance/Scholarships/Player Recruitment Strategies

What is a fair and equitable level of scholarships at clubs?
This season, the Wicks beat all comers to the prime cattle of the Aust Schoolboys 2013, signing up 6 of them.

It seems, that Uni have a whole variety of scholarships and arrangements through their elite athletes programme, and other third party deals with residential colleges etc.
Meanwhile most of the other "progressive" clubs have followed suit in some way, with between 5 and 7 "scholarships" seeming to be the norm, with these "scholarships" being about $3000-$5000 value (most in contra).

Has the Arms Race just been ratcheted up a notch with this announcement from the Wicks?
http://randwickrugby.com.au/news/2014-news/4158-rdrufc-luncheon-28-august




A perfect storm down in Brook Street with the mix of influences and approaches from Sydney Uni (Nick Ryan) and Scots College (Wade Kelly).

Can the other clubs (we know Uni can) compete with attracting and retaining talent, when the Wicks are looking to buy in up to 50 players next year (up to 15 more than this years harvest)?

How many of these lads being targeted will be from the wrong side of Anzac Parade, with no previous history of association with Randwick via the Juniors or the "local" High Schools?

What hope is there for Two Blues and Emus to compete?
2015 will see the 2 Blues lose the majority of the extraordinary Oakhill 2012 graduates as they move up to grade. One hopes that the momentum generated over the past two years, lead by the Oakhill influence, is maintained.
Financial Assistance/Scholarships/Player Recruitment Strategies

What is a fair and equitable level of scholarships at clubs?
This season, the Wicks beat all comers to the prime cattle of the Aust Schoolboys 2013, signing up 6 of them.

It seems, that Uni have a whole variety of scholarships and arrangements through their elite athletes programme, and other third party deals with residential colleges etc.
Meanwhile most of the other "progressive" clubs have followed suit in some way, with between 5 and 7 "scholarships" seeming to be the norm, with these "scholarships" being about $3000-$5000 value (most in contra).

Has the Arms Race just been ratcheted up a notch with this announcement from the Wicks?
http://randwickrugby.com.au/news/2014-news/4158-rdrufc-luncheon-28-august
If Randwick have 35 players on scholarships then unless some come off these they can offer about 10 more next season.



A perfect storm down in Brook Street with the mix of influences and approaches from Sydney Uni (Nick Ryan) and Scots College (Wade Kelly).

Can the other clubs (we know Uni can) compete with attracting and retaining talent, when the Wicks are looking to buy in up to 50 players next year (up to 15 more than this years harvest)?

How many of these lads being targeted will be from the wrong side of Anzac Parade, with no previous history of association with Randwick via the Juniors or the "local" High Schools?

What hope is there for Two Blues and Emus to compete?
2015 will see the 2 Blues lose the majority of the extraordinary Oakhill 2012 graduates as they move up to grade. One hopes that the momentum generated over the past two years, lead by the Oakhill influence, is maintained.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Discipline Summary so far:

Club Discipline Record
Send Off (Red Card)
Penrith: 4, (Colts1: 1, Colts2: 3)
Randwick: 3, (Colts1: 1, Colts2: 2, Colts3: 0)
Eastern Suburbs: 2, (Colts1: 0, Colts2: 2, Colts3: 0)
Gordon: 2, (Colts1: 2, Colts2: 0) (1 RC is for second YC in the same game)
Southern Districts: 2, (Colts1: 0, Colts2: 1, Colts3: 1) (1 RC is for second YC in the same game)
Warringah: 2, (Colts1: 2, Colts2: 0, Colts3: 0)
West Harbour: 1, (Colts1: 1, Colts2: 0, Colts3: 0)
Eastwood: 1, (Colts1: 0, Colts2: 1, Colts3: 0)
Manly: 1, (Colts1: 1, Colts2: 0, Colts3: 0)
Parramatta: 1, (Colts1: 0, Colts2: 0, Colts3: 1)

Northern Suburbs: 0, (Colts1: 0, Colts2: 0, Colts3: 0)
Sydney University: 0, (Colts1: 0, Colts2: 0, Colts3: 0)

Sin Bin (Yellow Card)
Southern Districts: 34 (Colts1: 13, Colts2: 11, Colts3: 10)
Eastern Suburbs: 32 (Colts1: 14, Colts2: 11, Colts3: 7)
West Harbour: 26 (Colts1: 12, Colts2: 12, Colts3: 2)
Northern Suburbs: 25 (Colts1: 6, Colts2: 13, Colts3: 6)
Parramatta: 25 (Colts1: 7, Colts2: 14, Colts3: 4)
Eastwood: 24 (Colts1: 6, Colts2: 12, Colts3: 6)
Penrith: 23 (Colts1: 10, Colts2: 13)
Manly: 20 (Colts1: 11, Colts2: 5, Colts3: 4)
Randwick: 20 (Colts1: 10, Colts2: 6, Colts3: 4)
Warringah: 12 (Colts1: 7, Colts2: 5, Colts3: 0)
Sydney University: 10 (Colts1: 1, Colts2: 7, Colts3: 2)
Gordon: 9 (Colts1: 7, Colts2: 2)



Individual Discipline Record:
260 Yellow cards have been issued to 202 players (out of 987 players) [26%]
155 players have received 1 Yellow Card.
37 players have received 2 Yellow Cards.
9 players have received 3 Yellow Cards.
1 players have received 4 Yellow Cards.
0 players have received more than 4 Yellow Cards.


19 Red Cards have been issued to 18 Players.
1 Player has received 2 Red Cards. (He was stood down from round 4 to round 8 by his club))
17 Players have received 1 Red Card.
2 Players have received their Red Card because of their second Yellow Card in the game.

Discipline by Grade:
104 Yellow Cards and 8 Red Cards have been issued in Colts 1
111 Yellow Cards and 9 Red Cards have been issued in Colts 2
45 Yellow Cards and 2 Red Cards have been issued in Colts 3
Note: In Colts 3's, there are 2 less games each week due to the Bye.

Discipline by Round:
12 Yellow Cards and 1 Red Cards were issued in Round 1 (YC: 3 Colts1, 7 Colts2, 2 Colts3 RC: Colts1)
15 Yellow Cards and 0 Red Cards were issued in Round 2 (YC: 8 Colts1, 6 Colts2, 1 Colts3)
19 Yellow Cards and 3 Red Cards were issued in Round 3 (YC: 7 Colts1,10 Colts2, 2 Colts3 RC: 2 Colts1, 1 Colts2)
17 Yellow Cards and 0 Red Cards were issued in Round 4 (YC: 7 Colts1, 7 Colts2, 3 Colts3)
20 Yellow Cards and 1 Red Cards were issued in Round 5 (YC: 9 Colts1, 7 Colts2, 4 Colts3 RC: Colts2)
17 Yellow Cards and 1 Red Cards were issued in Round 6 (YC: 6 Colts1, 7 Colts2, 4 Colts3 RC: Colts3)
10 Yellow Cards and 1 Red Cards were issued in Round 7 (YC: 5 Colts1, 3 Colts2, 2 Colts3 RC: Colts2)
9 Yellow Cards and 0 Red Cards were issued in Round 8 (YC: 4 Colts1, 5 Colts2, 0 Colts3)
13 Yellow Cards and 3 Red Cards were issued in Round 9 (YC: 5 Colts1, 6 Colts2, 2 Colts3 RC: Colts1, 2 Colts2)
25 Yellow Cards and 1 Red Cards were issued in Round 10 (YC: 12 Colts1, 9 Colts2, 4 Colts3RC: Colts2)
14 Yellow Cards and 3 Red Cards were issued in Round 11 (YC: 4 Colts1, 7 Colts2, 3 Colts3 RC: 2 Colts1, 1 Colts2)
16 Yellow Cards and 1 Red Cards were issued in Round 12 (YC: 3 Colts1, 11 Colts2, 1 Colts3 RC: 1 Colts1)
16 Yellow Cards and 3 Red Cards were issued in Round 13 (YC: 7 Colts1, 7 Colts2, 2 Colts3 RC: 1 Colts1, 1 Colts2, 1 Colts3)
15 Yellow Cards and 0 Red Cards were issued in Round 14 (YC: 7 Colts1, 5 Colts2, 3 Colts3)
12 Yellow Cards and 0 Red Cards were issued in Round 15 (YC: 4 Colts1, 2 Colts2, 6 Colts3)
13 Yellow Cards and 0 Red Cards were issued in Round 16 (YC: 7 Colts1, 5 Colts2, 1 Colts3)
10 Yellow Cards and 0 Red Cards were issued in Round 17 (YC: 4 Colts1, 4 Colts2, 2 Colts3)
7 Yellow Cards and 1 Red Cards were issued in Round 18 (YC: 2 Colts1, 3 Colts2, 2 Colts3 RC: 0 Colts1, 1 Colts2, 0 Colts3)

Who pushes the Laws?
144 Yellow Cards have been issued to Forwards
41 = Front Row, 33 = Second Row, 70 = Loose Forwards.​
82 Yellow Cards have been issued to Backs
25 = Halfback/Flyhalf, 24 = Centres, 33 = Back Three.​
34 Yellow Cards have been issued to Bench Players
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Who has been hassling the Scoreboard Attendants?
(to end of Round 18)

Top 10 Point Scorers
Justin FOURIE, Sydney University, (17), 176 points (22T 33C)
Matthew TEKI, Southern Districts, (12), 171 points (12T 39C 11PG) (missed 6 rounds through Injury)
Ben HUGHES, Sydney University, (18), 153 points (25T 14C)
Christian KAGIASSIS, Sydney University, (13), 145 points (11T 45C)
Alex NEWSOME, Eastern Suburbs, (16), 142 points (5T 33C 17PG)
Christian YASSMIN, Sydney University, (13), 137 points (27T 1C) (missed 5 rounds through Injury)
Kieran KNIGHT, Randwick, (18), 137 points (10T 33C 7PG)
James BENTON, Parramatta, (18), 135 points (1T 47C 12PG)
John PORCH, Northern Suburbs, (12), 134 points (8T 38C 6PG)
Anthony MANASSA, Eastwood, (16), 134 points (4T 48C 6PG)

Top 10 Golden Boots
James BENTON, Parramatta, (16) 130 points (47C 12PG) (Front Row)
Alex NEWSOME, Eastern Suburbs, (16), 117 points (33C 17PG)
Anthony MANASSA, Eastwood, (16), 114 points (48C 6PG)
Matthew TEKI, Southern Districts, (12), 111 points (39C 11PG)
John PORCH, Northern Suburbs, (12), 94 points (38C 6PG)
Kingston DAY, Randwick, (14), 94 points (38C 6PG)
Christian KAGIASSIS, Sydney University, (13), 90 points (45C)
Kevin WEEKS, Southern Districts, (16), 88 points (35C 6PG) (Second Row)
Kieran KNIGHT, Randwick, (18), 87 points (33C 7PG)
Ellis ABRAHAMS, Manly, (13), 85 points (32C 7PG)

Note: Number is brackets is the number of run on starts the player has had.

Meat Pies
2336 tries have been scored by 654 players (out of 987 players) [66%]
333 players have not tasted a meat pie [34%].
206 players have scored only 1 Try.
448 players have scored 2 or more Tries.
314 players have scored 3 or more Tries.
224 players have scored 4 or more Tries.
176 players have scored 5 or more Tries.
44 players average 1 try per fortnight.

Top Individual Try Scorers
Christian YASSMIN, Sydney University, 27 tries, (13 starts) missed 5 rounds through Injury)
Ben HUGHES, Sydney University, 25 tries, (18 starts)
Adrian DELORE, Northern Suburbs, 23 tries, (16 starts)
Justin FOURIE, Sydney University, 22 tries, (17 starts)
Matthew HOOD, Sydney University, 19 tries, (17 starts)
Austin OSAGIE, Manly, 19 tries, (18 starts)
Matthew GONZALEZ, Eastwood, 16 tries, (16 starts)
Cyril SAWAKI, Southern Districts, 15 tries, (11 starts)
Joshua COOK, Northern Suburbs, 15 tries, (18 starts)
Nicholas O'CONNOR, Eastwood, 14 tries, (17 starts)


Club Try Scoring
Sydney University: 358 Tries (60% con); (160 Colts1 (52%), 119 Colts2 (63%), 79 Colts3 (70%))
Northern Suburbs: 274 Tries (54% con); (104 Colts1 (53%), 108 Colts2 (59%), 62 Colts3 (48%))
Southern Districts: 250 Tries (59% con); (116 Colts1 (65%), 87 Colts2 (53%), 47 Colts3 (57%))
Manly: 238 Tries (58% con); (91 Colts1 (57%), 77 Colts2 (60%), 70 Colts3 (57%))
Eastwood: 225 Tries (56% con); (92 Colts1 (45%), 90 Colts2 (69%), 43 Colts3 (56%))
Randwick: 220 Tries (57% con); (114 Colts1 (56%), 77 Colts2 (62%), 29 Colts3 (45%))
Parramatta: 178 Tries (52% con); (80 Colts1 (61%), 54 Colts2 (44%), 44 Colts3 (45%))
Eastern Suburbs: 164 Tries (54% con); (78 Colts1 (47%), 52 Colts2 (60%), 34 Colts3 (59%))
West Harbour: 159 Tries (58% con); (66 Colts1 (61%), 57 Colts2 (58%), 36 Colts3 (56%))
Warringah: 112 Tries (50% con); (60 Colts1 (55%), 28 Colts2 (46%), 24 Colts3 (42%))
Gordon: 102 Tries (56% con); (59 Colts1 (56%), 43 Colts2 (56%))
Penrith: 56 Tries (50% con); (23 Colts1 (39%), 33 Colts2 (58%))

Best Attacks or Worst Defences?
1043 tries in 108 Colts1 games (Average of 86.9 tries per team) [Average of 9.7 tries per game].
825 tries in 108 Colts1 games (Average of 68.8 tries per team) [Average of 7.6 tries per game].
468 tries in 72 Colts3 games (Average of 46.8 tries per team) [Average of 6.5 tries per game].

How's the Goal Kicking going?
1316 conversions of 2336 tries in all Colts Games ( 56% success).
572 conversions of 1043 tries in Colts1 Games ( 55% success).
485 conversions of 825 tries in Colts2 Games ( 59% success).
259 conversions of 468 tries in Colts3 Games ( 55% success).

3337 points have been scored from the boot in all 3 Colts grades. 702 points from 234 penalty goals. 2632 points from 1316 conversions. 3 points from 1 field goal (J Keppel - Southern Districts Colts3).

The Ducks Bum Award (tries scored by Opposition)
Sydney University: 131 Tries (70 Colts1, 41 Colts2, 20 Colts3)
Northern Suburbs: 144 Tries (73 Colts1, 35 Colts2, 36 Colts3)
Southern Districts: 151 Tries (56 Colts1, 58 Colts2, 37 Colts3)
Eastwood: 152 Tries (79 Colts1, 49 Colts2, 24 Colts3)
Manly: 155 Tries (61 Colts1, 47 Colts2, 47 Colts3)
Randwick: 170 Tries (49 Colts1, 65 Colts2, 56 Colts3)
Eastern Suburbs: 186 Tries (58 Colts1, 71 Colts2, 57 Colts3)
West Harbour: 205 Tries (75 Colts1, 64 Colts2, 66 Colts3)
Parramatta: 215 Tries (95 Colts1, 63 Colts2, 57 Colts3)
Gordon: 230 Tries (124 Colts1, 106 Colts2)
Warringah: 283 Tries (109 Colts1, 106 Colts2, 68 Colts3)
Penrith: 314 Tries (194 Colts1, 120 Colts2)

Players used so far.
Parramatta: 92 Players used, (56 Colts 1, 67 Colts 2, 64 Colts3)
Manly: 92 Players used, (47 Colts 1, 53 Colts 2, 71 Colts3)
Randwick: 91 Players used, (43 Colts 1, 57 Colts 2, 52 Colts3)
Warringah: 90 Players used, (53 Colts 1, 61 Colts 2, 70 Colts3)
Sydney University: 90 Players used, (48 Colts 1, 66 Colts 2, 49 Colts3)
Eastern Suburbs: 88 Players used, (37 Colts 1, 64 Colts 2, 54 Colts3)
Eastwood: 85 Players used, (50 Colts 1, 59 Colts 2, 62 Colts3)
Southern Districts: 85 Players used, (47 Colts 1, 58 Colts 2, 61 Colts3)
West Harbour: 84 Players used, (45 Colts 1, 57 Colts 2, 64 Colts3)
Penrith: 74 Players used, (60 Colts 1, 63 Colts 2)
Northern Suburbs: 65 Players used, (44 Colts 1, 50 Colts 2, 46 Colts3)
Gordon: 57 Players used, (38 Colts 1, 46 Colts 2)


Last update for the year folks.
 

the coach

Bob Davidson (42)
Can someone please confirm the start time for Randwick v Manly Colts 1 on Saturday?
NSWRU website has 1:10pm
Wicks website has 12 noon
Manly website has 1pm
Can't see how 12 noon can be correct given the previous game starts at 11:40am :confused:
 

Eyes and Ears

Bob Davidson (42)
Can someone please confirm the start time for Randwick v Manly Colts 1 on Saturday?
NSWRU website has 1:10pm
Wicks website has 12 noon
Manly website has 1pm
Can't see how 12 noon can be correct given the previous game starts at 11:40am :confused:

It was changed from 1 pm to 1.10pm. 1.10pm is correct.
 

lily

Vay Wilson (31)
According to Marlins website Lalakai Foketi and Benson Fakai are both playing 3rd grade today. Hearing whispers that coach has lost the dressing room.
 
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