Wallabies 2023

[Braveheart81]

BH, all referees change the timeing at the end of a game, the impact on the opposition is great and ref's know it. Mind you I thought that was bizarre as he should have spoken to Foley about being quick at the end of the game. Foley lost us that game.....

This has literally never happened before but sure, all referees do it.

 

[stillmissit]

South Africa v Australia Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria Saturday, 8 July, 2023

Referee: Ben O'Keeffe (NZR) Assistant Referee 1: Paul Williams (NZR) Assistant Referee 2: Andrea Piardi (FIR) TMO: Brendon Pickerill (NZR)

Australia v Argentina CommBank Stadium, Sydney Saturday, 15 July, 2023

Referee: Jaco Peyper (SARU) Assistant Referee 1: Paul Williams (NZR) Assistant Referee 2: James Doleman (NZR) TMO: Marius Jonker (SARU)

Australia v New Zealand Melbourne Cricket Ground, Melbourne Saturday, 29 July, 2023

Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU) Assistant Referee 1: Karl Dickson (RFU) Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU) TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

New Zealand v Australia Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin Saturday, 5 August, 2023

Referee: Karl Dickson (RFU) Assistant Referee 1: Wayne Barnes (RFU) Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU) TMO: Marius Jonker (SARU)

France v Australia Stade de France, Saint-Denis Sunday, 27 August, 2023

Referee: Luke Pearce (RFU) Assistant Referee 1: Christophe Ridley (RFU) Assistant Referee 2: Craig Evans (WRU) TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

Better to get O'Keeffe in an unwinnable Test. We have a very good record under Wayne Barnes. Karl Dickson is a totally out-of-form ref; he had an absolute shocker last week and is generally known as a homer. No Raynal in any capacity for any of our matches. We escape Joy Neville thankfully although do have the 2nd worst TMO in Jonker.

Thanks a lot Qwerty, it could have been a lot worse. The update to refs protocol (I just watched) has reduced the TMO to a decision prior to review and then minimum reviews looking for a decision quickly.

 

[KevinO]

Really? When is that? And where? I knew they were playing England. Not a world team.

Think it's in England as well, Folau selected in the World team and Joe Marler in the BaaBaas might be interesting for non rugby related history.

 

[KevinO]

I'd start Quade against the All blacks and give Gordon the starts against Pumas and Boks. Being only 4 tests for Eddie to prepare for the RWC I wouldn't be worried about results and wins. More that his seeing how his combos are working, think he will go all out against NZ and than trial stuff against the other two.

 

[Drew]

I don't see why we can't run Quade at 10 and Gordon at 22 in the TRC. Quade likely is better not running the 80, Gordon could use 20/30 at the tail.

I'm not specifically against Foley, but I'd take either/or Quade/Foley. If Quade isn't up to it, start Foley and leave Quade in Japan. Thence Carter and Hodge filling in at utility after that.

My thoughts exactly. If Gordon performs in TRC he goes.

 

[qwerty51]

I'd start Quade against the All blacks and give Gordon the starts against Pumas and Boks. Being only 4 tests for Eddie to prepare for the RWC I wouldn't be worried about results and wins. More that his seeing how his combos are working, think he will go all out against NZ and than trial stuff against the other two.

Gordon starting the first Test of the year at Loftus Versfeld. Well, we know you're not a Wallabies fan. Way to kill a career.

 

[stillmissit]

Which coach/team goes to a RWC and isn't interested in experience? There's an incredible correlation between experience and success at RWCs.

It wouldn't be a question of not being interested in an obvious talent. It's entirely around preparation time.

Any coach who ignores raw talent with the potential Carter Gordon has in a search for good older experience that is rarer than rocking horse shit, is trying to look good and not win the bloody thing.

“If the art of war were nothing but the art of avoiding risks, glory would become the prey of mediocre minds.” – Napoleon Bonaparte

 

[stillmissit]

This has literally never happened before but sure, all referees do it.

BH don't conflate two different things. I used to speed up any team trying to slow down the game at the end to win. I have never done or condoned what Raynel did.

 

[stillmissit]

Gordon starting the first Test of the year at Loftus Versfeld. Well, we know you're not a Wallabies fan. Way to kill a career.

Qwerty Pat Howard was nearly ruined by starting in his first test at 10 against the all blacks at Dunedin on a very wet day?

 

[KevinO]

Gordon starting the first Test of the year at Loftus Versfeld. Well, we know you're not a Wallabies fan. Way to kill a career.

Better off giving him meaningful game time then playing him off the bench, 1-2 hours game time and then something goes wrong at RWC and his needed to start a more meaningful game. Ireland 2015 is a horrible example, Ian Madigan example in the Quarter finals.

 

[qwerty51]

Better off giving him meaningful game time then playing him off the bench, 1-2 hours game time and then something goes wrong at RWC and his needed to start a more meaningful game. Ireland 2015 is a horrible example, Ian Madigan example in the Quarter finals.

Sure, if they consider Carter Gordon the #2 option but he's most likely going to be considered the #3. And your example is exactly why he will be the 3rd option.

 

[dillyboy]

Really? When is that? And where? I knew they were playing England. Not a world team.

May 28th at Twickenham!

Jones coaching the Baa Baas & Steve Hansen the World XV

 

[Mr Pilfer]

Does Aus A have fixtures? I be comfortable letting Quade play Tests. Carter run around for Aus A and get extra mins in the Tests if the fixtures worked.

Surely they should organize something. Even if they just put together an Australia A vs Australia B scenario to get some more game time into some players. They could do them as curtain raisers to the Sydney and Melbourne tests

 

[Rugbyman2023]

Surely they should organize something. Even if they just put together an Australia A vs Australia B scenario to get some more game time into some players. They could do them as curtain raisers to the Sydney and Melbourne tests

Imagine an aus a v nz 15 game before bledislode cup!
they should look at the Pac nations cup again as well v Fiji, Tonga and Samoa

 

[qwerty51]

NZ A are playing Japan. They don't care about us.

 

[Tex]

We'd be mad to start Gordon in any of the coming games.

Christ, he's had a good season but let the young guy get game time when the big bodies have slowed down a touch and the game's opened up. Give him ample minutes, then maybe start him in warm-ups or in early games against lower tiered nations.

RWC is good and all but we've got to be thinking about a 8-10y career, not 8 months of highest intensity footy.

 

[Slim 293]

Marky Mark (Nawaqanitawase) re-signs, just for another year…

Mark Nawaqanitawase re-signs with Waratahs, Rugby Australia

www.rugby.com.au

 

[Joe Blow]

Amazed and wondering WHY? I am sure he could earn a fine quid in Japan or Europe post RWC.

He has had his time OS. Sometimes money is not the only factor. He will be great at the Force. Good test player on top of his game.

 

[fatprop]

You would think Gordon would be getting a couple of 10-15 minutes at best this year unless the starting 10 breaks down.

It is RWC year

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

You would think Gordon would be getting a couple of 10-15 minutes at best this year unless the starting 10 breaks down.

It is RWC year

This is why RA should be have Aus A v Tonga/Samoa fixtures locked in.