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Wallabies v Lions Game 2 MCG 26 July

Derpus

Stirling Mortlock (74)
It sounds ridiculous but after the game I genuinely thought: “why do I even bother?”

I’m 30 and one by one all of the friends that I used to watch rugby with have moved on over the years, as they can’t handle the officiating and the disappointment.

Then I flick over to Reddit and I see every other nation belittling us in a way that no one else in world rugby ever really cops it, and it is really apparent to me that no one sport that I watch ever makes me feel this way.

I know I’m being a sook but eventually you have to ask why you continue to tune in.

Someone post this over at Reddit and shut the fucking pomms up.
Its just the gutless, lose from any position attitude i cant take. They fucking suck in a way no sporting team ive ever supported does.
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Rod McCall (65)
Its just the gutless, lose from any position attitude i cant take. They fucking suck in a way no sporting team ive ever supported does.
Let me introduce you to someone, you’ll get along.

 

KOB1987

John Eales (66)
Dru, the right 23 would have helped. Maybe now it will be recognisded that Bell is not a strong scrummager, Robertson is out of his depth, and both McReight and Wilson are very pedestrian. Not like Fraser - I think he must be carrying an injury, but Harry has never been any better than he showed tonight. It was an error of large proportions by Schmidt to take both Slipper and Ala'alatoa off at half time because that was the plan.

In the backs, it should now be clear to all that JAS is not yet, and maybe never will be, a test standard player. His defence is atrocious.

The 6-2 bench was a mistake, not just in retrospect. Most posters here before the game were very nervous about an early injury to one of the backs, and so it came to be. Tate did an excellent job in the circumstances but would have been a whole lot more impactful at halfback where he should have been.

Unlike others, I am not putting the responsibility for the loss on the early replacement of Valetini and Skelton. Those moves certainly had some effect, but Big Will had run his race and Gleeson did an all right job subbing for Rob. The error was in taking Rob off instead of the ineffectual Wilson.

This loss was down to the Coaches and their pre-ordained replacement plan.
A couple of points on this:
- Valetini was apparently experiencing a ‘twinge’ at half time
- Ikitau looked a bit off in the second half. Not saying this acquits JAS of a couple of bad reads, but it didn’t help.
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Rod McCall (65)
JAS needs time. Like many of the young players.

We question Lynagh but also acknowledge his age when it comes to what he is and might become yet he’s a year older than JAS. He’s shown plenty in attack to see there’s a hell of a player in there.

Could watch back almost every player last night and see basic errors. Slipper had a good showing but also got stood up in defence a couple times with zero lateral movement left in him.
 

Strewthcobber

Michael Lynagh (62)
Much as it sucks, we need to give the Lions a bit of credit here.

Lineout 51m out, 13 phases, 26 passes and 2 mins later they score. It's one of the all-timers.

Frost with the critical miss on Aki (it was a tired attempt, and he knew instantly that it was a big problem). 11 tackles and 9 carries for Frost. No wonder he was tired
 

Derpus

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Much as it sucks, we need to give the Lions a bit of credit here.

Lineout 51m out, 13 phases, 26 passes and 2 mins later they score. It's one of the all-timers.

Frost with the critical miss on Aki (it was a tired attempt, and he knew instantly that it was a big problem)
Who could have predicted Frost making a critical defensive error…
 

KOB1987

John Eales (66)
Just a small positive anecdote:
- I’m in a punters club, these are all blokes who grew up with rugby but have tuned out and are now into NRL, there’s only me and one other rusted on rugby fan still in the group. The chat has been going crazy the last couple of weeks, they’re all saying it’s the best rugby they’ve seen from the Wallabies in 15-20 years, they’re loving it.

Also, I don’t really think there is such a thing as a dead rubber in a Lions series, look at the passion from supporters in the tour games. It’s important we go out and thrash these pasty smelly brits/irish/kiwis next week.
 

Strewthcobber

Michael Lynagh (62)
Who could have predicted Frost making a critical defensive error…
He's the only one of the 1-7 still out there at 80mins, and made the most carries and near most tackles in the team all night, at that point he's marking the oppo 12 4 wide in the centres, so he's probably odds on favourite to be the guy who misses one.

Edit..Gordon next to him in the line giving no help, but after 80mins at 9 would have been second most likely
 
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Hogan

Ward Prentice (10)
A bad take on tizzano.
but we did get found out second half. That second try before halftime was a bit of a killer.
Lynagh missed kicks - so did Finn. Wouldn’t put this on lynagh as has been written elsewhere
I think we needed more grunt second half which was maybe LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) and Hooper vs who came on.
suallii gets that pass off in the second and we score. Few little moments
Imagine what the critics would be saying if it was Noah that missed those kicks!! Lynagh went ok but he really needs to offer more in attack. He never looked like threatening the line. Too much shovelling standing still which never worried the defensive line.
 

Tomthumb

Peter Johnson (47)
Your posts are generally quite good but this is poor. You and TomThumb should go and start a negativity thread and hopefully drag in a few of these other trolls with you.
Yeah you’re right, we should be thankful for the pool stage exit at the World cup, not sniffing the Bledisole for 25 years and being one game away from being the only host nation in modern history to lose every tour game to the Lions

I understand trying to be positive, but at a certain point we need to acknowledge this is professional sport and winning actually matters
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Rod McCall (65)
Found it hard to gauge Lynagh last night so I’m hesitant to criticise. They seems to make his role very basic so not all his fault if he doesn’t attack.

First half was get the Forwards rolling: Very simple

Second h half everything faded away.

The conversions suck to miss but whatever. He’s probably the best kicker in Aus.
 

KOB1987

John Eales (66)
Yeah start Donaldson or even JOC (James O'Connor) next week. Bell to start and bring Tupou off the bench. Porecki was good, Leave Tizzano out and back to a 5-3 with Kellaway and Pietsch coming in.
 

Rugby King

Sydney Middleton (9)
JAS needs time. Like many of the young players.

We question Lynagh but also acknowledge his age when it comes to what he is and might become yet he’s a year older than JAS. He’s shown plenty in attack to see there’s a hell of a player in there.

Could watch back almost every player last night and see basic errors. Slipper had a good showing but also got stood up in defence a couple times with zero lateral movement left in him.
Time?
 

Yoda

Arch Winning (36)
I thought it was a fantastic game, at a pumping 'G' .. plenty of tries and edge of the seat stuff if you were at the ground or watching on the tv. The referees missed a golden opportunity though to send the series into a decider in Sydney on a very dubious 50/50 call. No feel for the game. Sure, the Wallabies let the roaring Lions back but to lose in a dodgy ref call is heartbreaking. This side is building though and will be much better by the RWC. I'm proud of all our team. Now regroup and go out in Sydney and win the final Test. The Lions aren't as good as they have been talked up.
 
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