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Shiggins

Steve Williams (59)
Their lack of meaningful prep can't help. Trying to compete against teams part of a six nation comp and NZ with a fully fledged domestic comp.

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I guess I expected to much then

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Steve Doublesteve

Peter Burge (5)
Not a follower of womens rugby but the gulf in class between the teams was enormous. Especially in terms of skills and set piece proficiency.
 

kiap

Steve Williams (59)
Their lack of meaningful prep can't help. Trying to compete against teams part of a six nation comp and NZ with a fully fledged domestic comp.
A starter national comp, say 5 teams - still amateur at this level, could be made to happen for under $100k p.a., IMO.

Get Buildcorp to sponsor it. Done.
 

2bluesfan

Nev Cottrell (35)
The Wallaroos have made some interesting selections for the match against Japan tomorrow following a few injuries. The team is:
1. Liz Patu
2. Cheyenne Campbell
3. Hilisha Samoa
4. Alisha Hewett
5. Millie Boyle
6. Mollie Gray
7. Chloe Butler
8. Grace Hamilton
9. Katrina Barker
10. Sarah Riordan
11. Mahalia Murphy
12. Kayla Sauvao
13. Sharni Williams (C)
14. Nareta Marsters
15. Samantha Treherne
Reserves
16. Emily Robinson
17. Violeta Tupuola
18. Hana Ngaha
19. Rebecca Clough
20. Kate Brown
21. Fenella Hake
22. Ashleigh Timoko
23. Trilleen Pomare

IN: Kate Brown, Violeta Tupuola
OUT: Shannon Parry, Louise Burrows

Skipper and openside flanker Shannon Parry is injured and is replaced by the versatile Chloe Butler who moves from lock. I am not sure of the status of Ash Hewson who wasn't selected for the previous match due to injury.

The most interesting selection is that of Sarah Riordan at flyhalf. Whilst this would seem to make the 10-12-13 channels a tough ask for the Japanese runners as the Wallaroos selected in these positions are all very good defenders, I am not sure that Riordan has actually played at flyhalf before. If it all goes pear-shaped there are two regular flyhalves on the bench.

The Japanese team led Ireland for a fair slab of their match so this will not be a picnic for our girls in Gold.

Set your alarm for 0200 if you are on the Eastern Seaboard. I'll be able to sleep in until 0400 here in Aotearoa :)
 

2bluesfan

Nev Cottrell (35)
In an entertaining match the Wallaroos have scored 5 tries to beat Japan 29-15 and now go into the playoff for fifth place (v Ireland).

Japan presented some challenges to the Wallaroos with a great spirit, superb fitness and total commitment to their plan. Their discipline was demonstrated in their first try when they maintained posession for 25 phases before scoring in the 46th minute (!) of the first half. Superb discipline.

Player of the match Grace Hamilton was superb, carrying the ball about 30 times and making ground each time.

It was the Wallaroos first Test win since the last World Cup in 2014 (although they played only 5 times in the period between tournaments).

Match highlights.
 

Shiggins

Steve Williams (59)
I wish we had the Japanese coach. Japan looked a better coached team. We just had some brutal forwards who busted 100 tackles. The Wallaroo coaching is pretty bad

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Beer Baron

Phil Hardcastle (33)
I wish we had the Japanese coach. Japan looked a better coached team. We just had some brutal forwards who busted 100 tackles. The Wallaroo coaching must be spalling

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I wonder how many players the other teams have from their sevens programs? Can casslick (sp) kick?

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wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
I wish we had the Japanese coach. Japan looked a better coached team. We just had some brutal forwards who busted 100 tackles. The Wallaroo coaching is pretty bad

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Coaching would be good, the sort of corporate support that exists for the game in Japan would be better. (I assume that the women are employed by the same corporates who employ a lot of the men?)
 

kiap

Steve Williams (59)
I wish we had the Japanese coach. Japan looked a better coached team. We just had some brutal forwards who busted 100 tackles. The Wallaroo coaching is pretty bad

It's hard to assess coaching from just seeing one or two games on tv. Let's at least wait for the end of the tournament.

Every test the Wallaroos have played in the last twelve months, except for Japan, has been against higher ranked sides (and the year before that, no matches played at all).

Particularly interesting will be the next game, the rematch with the Irish. Their previous match was a close run thing but Ireland, for mine, were on average a little better with their skills and overall game.

If Australia can repair enough areas where they went wrong last time, and particularly if they manage to beat Ireland (a team ranked a full six points higher than the Aussies) on their home soil over there in Ireland, then I think the coaching might earn a little credit.

The measure is less about how good their team is at the start of their tenure, or a few games in. A coach might inherit a well-oiled machine or have to build a side from scratch. The better test is whether they improve performances, team and individual, between arrival and departure.
 

2bluesfan

Nev Cottrell (35)
Wallaroos side to face Ireland:
IN: Ash Hewson
OUT: Ashleigh Timoko

1. Liz Patu – Queensland, Wests – 15 Test Caps
2. Cheyenne Campbell – Queensland, Redlands – 15 Test Caps
3. Hilisha Samoa – Queensland, Brothers – 6 Test Caps
4. Alisha Hewett – Australian Defence Force, Queensland, GPS – 16 Test Caps
5. Rebecca Clough – Western Australia, Cottesloe – 14 Test Caps
6. Millie Boyle – ACT, Canberra Royals – 6 Test Caps
7. Chloe Butler – South Australia, Parramatta – 12 Test Caps
8. Grace Hamilton – Sydney, Sydney University – 7 Test Caps
9. Katrina Barker – NSW Country, Newcastle University – 8 Test Caps
10. Ashleigh Hewson – Sydney, Sydney University – 16 Test Caps
11. Mahalia Murphy – Australian Sevens, NSW, Campbell Town – 3 Test Caps
12. Sharni Williams – Australian Sevens, ACT, Canberra Royals – 17 Test Caps
13. Sarah Riordan – Australian Defence Force, Victoria, Melbourne Unicorns – 7 Test Caps
14. Nareta Marsters – Queensland, Sunnybank – 7 Test Caps
15. Samantha Treherne – Queensland, Sunnybank – 6 Test Caps
Reserves
16. Emily Robinson – Sydney, Warringah – 4 Test Caps
17. Violeta Tupuola – ACT, Royals – 3 Test Caps
18. Hana Ngaha – Queensland, Sunnybank – 7 Test Caps
19. Mollie Gray – Australian Defence Force, NSW, Maitland – 11 Test Caps
20. Kate Brown – ACT, Tuggeranong Vikings – 1 Test Cap
21. Fenella Hake – Queensland, Redlands – 6 Test Caps
22. Kayla Sauvao – Sydney, Parramatta – 6 Test Caps
23. Trilleen Pomare – Western Australia, Wanneroo – 3 Test Caps

Ireland Team:
1. Lindsay Peat (Railway Union/Leinster)
2. Cliodhna Moloney (Railway Union/Leinster)
3. Ailis Egan (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
4. Ciara Cooney (Railway Union/Leinster)
5. Marie Louise Reilly (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
6. Ciara Griffin (UL Bohemians/Munster)
7. Claire Molloy (Bristol/Connacht) (capt)
8. Paula Fitzpatrick (St. Mary's/Leinster)
9. Nicole Cronin (UL Bohemians/Munster)
10. Nora Stapleton (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
11. Alison Miller (Old Belvedere/Connacht)
12. Sene Naoupu (Harlequins)
13. Jenny Murphy (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
14. Louise Galvin (UL Bohemians/Munster)
15. Hannah Tyrrell (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
Reserves
16. Leah Lyons (Highfield/Munster)
17. Ilse van Staden (Cooke/Ulster)
18. Ciara O'Connor (Galwegians/Connacht)
19. Sophie Spence (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
20. Anna Caplice (UL Bohemians/Munster)
21. Larissa Muldoon (Railway Union/Ulster)
22. Katie Fitzhenry (Blackrock/Leinster)
23. Claire McLaughlin (Cooke/Ulster)

Ash Hewson at flyhalf is a good move. I've seen her play there before (albeit at club level) and she controlled the game well. She brings a reasonable goal kicking record as well.

Wallaroos need to do much better at the lineout and throw wherever Reilly isn't. Parramatta Two Blue Chloe Butler has the unenviable job in going head to head against Ireland's dynamic skipper and openside flanker Claire Molloy. It will be an interesting challenge for Butler who is a non-stop player but probably not best suited to openside.

Kickoff 11PM tonight (AEST) or 0100 tomorrow for those of us in NZ.
 

Beer Baron

Phil Hardcastle (33)
Wallaroos side to face Ireland:
IN: Ash Hewson
OUT: Ashleigh Timoko

1. Liz Patu – Queensland, Wests – 15 Test Caps
2. Cheyenne Campbell – Queensland, Redlands – 15 Test Caps
3. Hilisha Samoa – Queensland, Brothers – 6 Test Caps
4. Alisha Hewett – Australian Defence Force, Queensland, GPS – 16 Test Caps
5. Rebecca Clough – Western Australia, Cottesloe – 14 Test Caps
6. Millie Boyle – ACT, Canberra Royals – 6 Test Caps
7. Chloe Butler – South Australia, Parramatta – 12 Test Caps
8. Grace Hamilton – Sydney, Sydney University – 7 Test Caps
9. Katrina Barker – NSW Country, Newcastle University – 8 Test Caps
10. Ashleigh Hewson – Sydney, Sydney University – 16 Test Caps
11. Mahalia Murphy – Australian Sevens, NSW, Campbell Town – 3 Test Caps
12. Sharni Williams – Australian Sevens, ACT, Canberra Royals – 17 Test Caps
13. Sarah Riordan – Australian Defence Force, Victoria, Melbourne Unicorns – 7 Test Caps
14. Nareta Marsters – Queensland, Sunnybank – 7 Test Caps
15. Samantha Treherne – Queensland, Sunnybank – 6 Test Caps
Reserves
16. Emily Robinson – Sydney, Warringah – 4 Test Caps
17. Violeta Tupuola – ACT, Royals – 3 Test Caps
18. Hana Ngaha – Queensland, Sunnybank – 7 Test Caps
19. Mollie Gray – Australian Defence Force, NSW, Maitland – 11 Test Caps
20. Kate Brown – ACT, Tuggeranong Vikings – 1 Test Cap
21. Fenella Hake – Queensland, Redlands – 6 Test Caps
22. Kayla Sauvao – Sydney, Parramatta – 6 Test Caps
23. Trilleen Pomare – Western Australia, Wanneroo – 3 Test Caps

Ireland Team:
1. Lindsay Peat (Railway Union/Leinster)
2. Cliodhna Moloney (Railway Union/Leinster)
3. Ailis Egan (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
4. Ciara Cooney (Railway Union/Leinster)
5. Marie Louise Reilly (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
6. Ciara Griffin (UL Bohemians/Munster)
7. Claire Molloy (Bristol/Connacht) (capt)
8. Paula Fitzpatrick (St. Mary's/Leinster)
9. Nicole Cronin (UL Bohemians/Munster)
10. Nora Stapleton (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
11. Alison Miller (Old Belvedere/Connacht)
12. Sene Naoupu (Harlequins)
13. Jenny Murphy (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
14. Louise Galvin (UL Bohemians/Munster)
15. Hannah Tyrrell (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
Reserves
16. Leah Lyons (Highfield/Munster)
17. Ilse van Staden (Cooke/Ulster)
18. Ciara O'Connor (Galwegians/Connacht)
19. Sophie Spence (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
20. Anna Caplice (UL Bohemians/Munster)
21. Larissa Muldoon (Railway Union/Ulster)
22. Katie Fitzhenry (Blackrock/Leinster)
23. Claire McLaughlin (Cooke/Ulster)

Ash Hewson at flyhalf is a good move. I've seen her play there before (albeit at club level) and she controlled the game well. She brings a reasonable goal kicking record as well.

Wallaroos need to do much better at the lineout and throw wherever Reilly isn't. Parramatta Two Blue Chloe Butler has the unenviable job in going head to head against Ireland's dynamic skipper and openside flanker Claire Molloy. It will be an interesting challenge for Butler who is a non-stop player but probably not best suited to openside.

Kickoff 11PM tonight (AEST) or 0100 tomorrow for those of us in NZ.
Wow...England skipper has 96 caps... Appears to be more than our whole team

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2bluesfan

Nev Cottrell (35)
Wow.England skipper has 96 caps. Appears to be more than our whole team

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Wallaroos Starting 15 v Ireland: 155 caps
England Starting 15 v France: 854 caps (bench players 415!)

Historically, the overall performance of a few of the top teams can be summarised:


England have played a total of 249 Tests, winning 207, since their first Test in 1987. (8 Tests per year roughly)
New Zealand have played a total of 90 Tests, winning 79, since their first Test in 1990. (Not quite 4 per year)
Wallaroos have played a total of 47 Tests, winning 12, since their first Test in 1994. (About 2 per year but this is heavily skewed by World Cups)

We really need to provide more opportunities for our women, but in these troubled times the question is how?
 

Beer Baron

Phil Hardcastle (33)
Wallaroos Starting 15 v Ireland: 155 caps
England Starting 15 v France: 854 caps (bench players 415!)

Historically, the overall performance of a few of the top teams can be summarised:


England have played a total of 249 Tests, winning 207, since their first Test in 1987.
New Zealand have played a total of 90 Tests, winning 79, since their first Test in 1990.
Wallaroos have played a total of 47 Tests, winning 12, since their first Test in 1994.

We really need to provide more opportunities for our women, but in these troubled times the question is how?
Play the men?? Cheap and better chance of winning (for the women)

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Shiggins

Steve Williams (59)
It's crazy to see the difference in women's rugby. These girls can Carry The ball in high without much risk of being held up and turned over.

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Shiggins

Steve Williams (59)
Jeez the Aussie women are putting everything they have into this. Brilliant

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Shiggins

Steve Williams (59)
Dominant ! What a set peice play.
Shani Williams is brilliant.
12 36 with 15 to go

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