Waratahs 2019

[Derpus]

We are in no position to talk, but you would have to think the management of this team has been pretty diabolical.

I would love to have Simon Cron at the Reds.

Very similar trajectory to post Super title reds. Faster even.

 

[wamberal]

We are in no position to talk, but you would have to think the management of this team has been pretty diabolical.

I would love to have Simon Cron at the Reds.

Cron was okay at club level, not much evidence that he was a star at the Tahs, although of course nobody knows for sure what his constraints were.


I suppose one of the Tahs' problems is that there are so many NRL clubs in their territory, will and eager to snaffle up every kid that shows any sort of ability as soon as they start to shave.

 

['Tattsy'TaylorFan1]

Cron was okay at club level, not much evidence that he was a star at the Tahs, although of course nobody knows for sure what his constraints were.


I suppose one of the Tahs' problems is that there are so many NRL clubs in their territory, will and eager to snaffle up every kid that shows any sort of ability as soon as they start to shave.

Johnson-Holmes? - identified him Australia u20s 2017 and then developed him at the Tahs 2018 and 2019
Fitzpatrick? - Rays 2016 to outstanding lineout operator and third top tackler in Super Rugby this year
Wells? - Northern Suburbs, Aussie 7s mere mortal 3-4 years ago, dominated Naisarani when they played the Rebels this year

 

['Tattsy'TaylorFan1]

We are in no position to talk, but you would have to think the management of this team has been pretty diabolical.

I would love to have Simon Cron at the Reds.

I reckon Cron would have a good relationship with Liam Wright and Scott-Young from their 2017 u20s year. Wright was the 20s player of the year. Got the best out of Perese too because I think it is fair to say that 2017 Junior World Cup was the height of Perese in union.

All hindsight and hypotheticals now though.

 

[TSR]

Mate - your devotion to some of these guys is admirable, but Wells didn’t dominate Nasirani.

 

[Derpus]

Johnson-Holmes? - identified him Australia u20s 2017 and then developed him at the Tahs 2018 and 2019
Fitzpatrick? - Rays 2016 to outstanding lineout operator and third top tackler in Super Rugby this year
Wells? - Northern Suburbs, Aussie 7s mere mortal 3-4 years ago, dominated Naisarani when they played the Rebels this year

Cron is probably developing fine as a coach and losing him is something of a shame. But from Cron's perspective the move is 100% the best decision to make for his career.

And let's be honest. Of the three players you identified only one should be starting in a team hoping to win a Super rugby title.

 

[Slim 293]

And let's be honest. Of the three players you identified only one should be starting in a team hoping to win a Super rugby title.

Tattsy has listed all three in his Wallabies squad.........

 

[Derpus]

Tattsy has listed all three in his Wallabies squad...

Well, to be fair to, there is not much competition for bench hooker.

 

[Slim 293]

Well, to be fair to, there is not much competition for bench hooker.

Tattsy had Fitzpatrick as the starter......... Hugh Roach on the bench.

 

[Derpus]

Well that's indefensible.

 

[cyclopath]

Well that's indefensible.

I dunno, I reckon they'd be easier to defend against than Fainga'a.

 

[Tomikin]

Tattsy had Fitzpatrick as the starter... Hugh Roach on the bench.

Hahahahahahha... wait Hhahahahahahahaha...

 

['Tattsy'TaylorFan1]

Mate - your devotion to some of these guys is admirable, but Wells didn’t dominate Nasirani.

Don't disagree with my over zealousness re. Wells however I think it's fair to say that the Rebels can well and truly be considered as overrated now. Wells' tackling is fantastic now I think it must be the Steve Tandy influence.

I suppose I just question how good Naisarani, Jones, Philip, Coleman and some of these other Rebels forwards in particular really are?

 

['Tattsy'TaylorFan1]

Tattsy has listed all three in his Wallabies squad...

Yep and I have Newsome in there as well.

 

[Dctarget]

Don't disagree with my over zealousness re. Wells however I think it's fair to say that the Rebels can well and truly be considered as overrated now. Wells' tackling is fantastic now I think it must be the Steve Tandy influence.

I suppose I just question how good Naisarani, Jones, Philip, Coleman and some of these other Rebels forwards in particular really are?

I think those guys you just named minus Coleman were their best. Rebels poor season can be blamed on the other 12 blokes.

 

['Tattsy'TaylorFan1]

I think those guys you just named minus Coleman were their best. Rebels poor season can be blamed on the other 12 blokes.

Fair call, I'm not a fan of Quade fullstop. And I wouldn't take Genia to the World Cup either, it's time to move on and bring through Powell, McDermott and Gordon.

 

[boyo]

 

[formerflanker]

Fair call, I'm not a fan of Quade fullstop. And I wouldn't take Genia to the World Cup either, it's time to move on and bring through Powell, McDermott and Gordon.

I was enjoying Quade's early season form this year but then he seemed to hit a wall. The selectors will not be pressured to include him now.
However, if the 5 Tests pre-RWC are treated as trials, he should get a go.

 

[Derpus]

I was enjoying Quade's early season form this year but then he seemed to hit a wall. The selectors will not be pressured to include him now.
However, if the 5 Tests pre-RWC are treated as trials, he should get a go.

The team hit a wall, to be fair to him. As soon as teams learnt to put pressure on Genia and contain the flat forward runners the whole team came unstuck.

It's actually kind of unfortunate Quade's run at the Wallabies was scuppered by poor coaching.

 

[cyclopath]

The team hit a wall, to be fair to him. As soon as teams learnt to put pressure on Genia and contain the flat forward runners the whole team came unstuck.

It's actually kind of unfortunate Quade's run at the Wallabies was scuppered by poor coaching.

And probably down to his own patchy form just as much. And injuries.