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David Wilson (68)
She appears to have swallowed Cheikas' rubbish, hook line and sinker.
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She appears to have swallowed Cheikas' rubbish, hook line and sinker.
"appears" and then appoints Johnson above him and adds an independent selector ..............
Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
As I understand the situation, Cheika gets most say, if not all, in the selection of the third selector. Have to say I think the introduction of Johnson and the selection panel is mere window dressing on the part of RA.
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Phil Kearns (64)
I hear this and wonder what real options she really has, there is no money, so payout Cheika, Grey et al and buy another "better" coaches with what? and who? We hear all these wish lists of better options that are in contracts so would require a payout and big wages.
And she can't "sack" Clyne, that is a board issue and Chairman's of the board employ CEO's, CEO's don't sack the Chairman
So what would have been the "brave" things to do?
RebelYell
Arch Winning (36)
Move away from Super Rugby, or at least tell SANZAAR we need to keep Japan.
Learn how to play the game to win the WRWC bid (get the votes)
Negotiate a way to get Super Rugby on FTA
I get that the bank is nearly empty, but we need somebody who is willing to try and change the game's trajectory, not just carry on playing it safe...
Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
Had I had my way, Cheika would have gone in 2016. It was obvious then that he had his favourites and no amount of test losses was going to influence him to pick stronger teams.
EDIT : It wouldn't have been too late to sack him at the end of 2018, but guts are totally lacking in the RA.
Abolutely hilarious Sully. As they say, if shit was wit, you'd be constipated.
Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
Well, for starters she could have moved Cheika to the created spot that Bernie has taken up, at same rate of pay. Cheika is poison and the further away from the test team he is the better.
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
What does his contract say? Do you know?
Plenty of game playing went on with that (few details in this article). If anything, the NZ guys didn't play at all.
Really it just came back to NZ winning five of the last six cups, and being the most dominant team of the world in that time.
Hard to play enough games to get around that.
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Reading and/or quoting The Parrot's droppings is a bloody good way to get banned on here.
Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
Imagine it says much the same as Bernie's did.
So obviously you would have sacked Cheika if it was your choice. Who would you have hired to coach the team this year?
Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
BH, I would at least have tried to find someone suitable. RA on the other hand have just not been interested in even looking over the past 4 years. And as I said, Cheika should have gone 4 years ago and there would have been ample numbers of good and tried coaches to take over. This is not just a flash in the pan thing to me. Cheika has ruined the national team since the last RWC and some of us have seen it happening from the very beginning. Actually, from the many posts on this site, I'd say most of us.
My first inclination at this late stage would be to organise a direct swap with Daryl Gibson. If that failed, there would be someone willing to take the task on just as Cheika was just before RWC 2015. With better selections, there is a chance that even blind Freddy could put a squad together that would be competitive to the semi finals of the Cup in 2019, and hence make a name for himself and get something better in the years following the WC. Just like Cheika.
My first inclination at this late stage would be to organise a direct swap with Daryl Gibson. If that failed, there would be someone willing to take the task on just as Cheika was just before RWC 2015. With better selections, there is a chance that even blind Freddy could put a squad together that would be competitive to the semi finals of the Cup in 2019, and hence make a name for himself and get something better in the years following the WC. Just like Cheika.
Not true, they were actively looking for Head Coaches as late as November last year.
No rugby nation in the world would have sacked their head coach within a year of making the RWC Final against the odds in their first year since taking the job.
Suggesting that Cheika should have been sacked in 2016 is ridiculous. You might hate the guy but that would have been an insane decision. You would have also had four years of a contract to pay out.
You might have "seen it from the beginning" because you were tipping him to fail at the RWC. If you're wrong at that point you can't claim in hindsight to have been right from the beginning because it happened later.
I think the only realistic time Cheika could have been sacked was during 2018 and that left them very little option of an alternative that could potentially achieve a better outcome at the RWC. Certainly at that point their only real option is looking for a caretaker who has little to gain. The only way to attract a better candidate is to offer then tenure beyond the RWC which means you have selected your new coach with very few of the best options available at the time of appointment which is just likely to prolong the problem.
What they have done is try and improve the situation through to the RWC by having Johnson and a selector in the frame and make some changes to the assistants. They are then in a better position to make a good appointment after the RWC.
I don't think anyone accepts the head coach role a year out from the RWC without being offered longer than just coaching to the RWC.
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Tim Horan (67)
Out of interest where have you seen this? Surprised that I haven’t picked it up.