School sporting scholarships/recruitment

[Spieber]

It's also inarguable that on average, a boy sitting the HSC for James Ruse High is likely to do considerably better than one from Knox, Cranbrook, Barker, Trinity and Knox.
James Ruse High topped the HSC state rankings, but parents will probably consider other factors other than academic as influencing their decision as to which school they chose for their sons.

JRH is a selective school, ipso facto parents cannot chose this school absent a strong performance in the entrance exam by young 张伟 or 王芳. One could argue their HSC results are poor considering they pick up the best year 6 students.

 

[The Honey Badger]

JRH is a selective school, ipso facto parents cannot chose this school absent a strong performance in the entrance exam by young 张伟 or 王芳. One could argue their HSC results are poor considering they pick up the best year 6 students.

Is it still an Agricultural High School?

And how many do Ag as an HSC subject? How many go on to fill top jobs in Agriculture.

They probably had a Rugby team once, like Hurlstone.

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[Spieber]

Is it still an Agricultural High School?

And how many do Ag as an HSC subject? How many go on to fill top jobs in Agriculture.

They probably had a Rugby team once, like Hurlstone.

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My understanding is they have to do Ag but used to be able to sit it in year 11. I would suggest somewhere close to zero end up in Ag - their families have done it tough for generations and there is no way 王伟 or 王秀英 are returning to the land.

 

[WLF]

JRH is a selective school, ipso facto parents cannot chose this school absent a strong performance in the entrance exam by young 张伟 or 王芳. One could argue their HSC results are poor considering they pick up the best year 6 students.

Bloody funny Spieber, I think we know who you mean by young.......!

I think the arguments between schools is interesting but at the end of the day, a boys performance in most things is up to the individual. All of these private schools mentioned have tremendous resources.

Back to rugby....

 

[Quick Hands]

QH,

I agree, I was referring at anyone who brings up fees, I don't think it's really necessary.

Not sure what you mean by "including you it seems", if you mean I was lucky to go there then yes you are correct.
All boys who go to these schools have a good start to life.

No, not all all. I simply point out that you also were talking about why Waverley fees were less expensive that some others.

I agree with you that it has nothing to do with it. All sorts of schools, high, low and middle ranging fees produce well-rounded young men and women - including Waverley.

You're obviously a proud old boy which is fantastic and I agree that all the boys are very fortunate no matter which of these schools they go to.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

all the boys are very fortunate no matter which of these schools they go to.

its the parents who don't feel fortunate

 

[WLF]

its the parents who don't feel fortunate

Not sure I agree,

I would have thought that most parents would feel that they gave their son/s a great starting opportunity in life, whilst you will always help them, after school it's up to them.

At UNI you are not Johnny Blogs who is well known, you are no. 123, and virtually no one cares.

 

[sidelineview]

My understanding is they have to do Ag but used to be able to sit it in year 11. I would suggest somewhere close to zero end up in Ag - their families have done it tough for generations and there is no way 王伟 or 王秀英 are returning to the land.

They'll have very nice patio gardens

 

[Spieber]

My understanding is they have to do Ag but used to be able to sit it in year 11. I would suggest somewhere close to zero end up in Ag - their families have done it tough for generations and there is no way 王伟 or 王秀英 are returning to the land.

The top of Ag in 2017 was indeed a Ms Zhang and she was in year 11 (as were 2-5 below).

 

[2bluesfan]

They probably had a Rugby team once, like Hurlstone.

They certainly did. I'm not sure if they fielded all age groups but I can recall playing against them in the early 70s. U/16s I think. We only played them that year, not any other year.

 

[CNorth]

I've been told that Waverley have had an association with the local Leagues clubs for some years now, whereby the Leagues clubs provide financial assistance towards the players school fees.

So, I guess what we have here is a number of new rugby players have transferred schools to Waverley. Presumably, some may he beneficiary of that program?​

If that was the case, its surprising, as Waverley supporters on G&G have been so anti-scholarship for years.

Very true. Waves supporters put it down to rugby program. Roosters put it down to stockpiling to help with future salary cap. Aka broncos in Brisbane. Waverley don't need to recruit when roosters do it.

 

[sidelineview]

Very true. Waves supporters put it down to rugby program. Roosters put it down to stockpiling to help with future salary cap. Aka broncos in Brisbane. Waverley don't need to recruit when roosters do it.

I call Bullshit on that. It''s easy to take a broad sweep at it and make a bold statement like this.
You wouldn't know but its not the first time you've claimed to have knowledge of this.
If you're fair dinkum you'll reveal your source of information.
You mustn't have read any other posts today.

This post is reported you cheap shot artist

 

[Props rule]

James ruse definitely had rugby through the 80's as well. Played them every year - started to die out in the early 90's I believe

 

[Kenny Powers]

James ruse definitely had rugby through the 80's as well. Played them every year - started to die out in the early 90's I believe

James Ruse won the Waratah Shield in 1979, alumni Andrew Leeds may have played in this team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waratah_Shield

Also why are they called 'selective' schools when they could just as easily be called 'exclusion' schools? In the name of education I guess there is also restrictions based on finances and religion, although to a lesser extent these days.

Just unusual given how political correct governments and the public service are and how easily people take offence these days that there is not the backlash against this divide in government schools. It would be like having two tiers of public hospitals and excluding part of the population from the higher tier.

 

[Quick Hands]

James ruse definitely had rugby through the 80's as well. Played them every year - started to die out in the early 90's I believe

It's not just selective high schools where rugby has died out - they are just the easiest examples to find because in the old days they catered more for all-rounders who had some academic ability, but also were good at sport. When I went to school, our biggest rival in rugby was North Sydney Boys' High (they won the Waratah Shield twice in the 70s). They haven't a rugby team for a decade, but nor have a plethora of state high schools who used to play in Wednesday afternoon grade sport.

Slightly off topic, but further to what KP is saying - in many cases state selective high schools have been turned into something that they weren't in the past. Many (probably most) of the students who go to them spend most of the primary education preparing for the selective schools test and have little or no exposure to anything beyond the academic realm.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

I call Bullshit on that. It''s easy to take a broad sweep at it and make a bold statement like this.
You wouldn't know but its not the first time you've claimed to have knowledge of this.
If you're fair dinkum you'll reveal your source of information.
You mustn't have read any other posts today.

This post is reported you cheap shot artist

It’s been going on for years at other schools and clubs, why not Waverley?
Peter Sterling came up from Wagga (?) and played with the eels in a semi v manly while still at school, IIRC.

 

[sidelineview]

It’s been going on for years at other schools and clubs, why not Waverley?
Peter Sterling came up from Wagga (?) and played with the eels in a semi v manly while still at school, IIRC.

What exactly has been going on for years at Waverley?
This should be good.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

What exactly has been going on for years at Waverley?
This should be good.

Do you need Braille?

 

[sidelineview]

Do you need Braille?

And thats all you've got.
I thought so.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

And thats all you've got.
I thought so.

It’s more fun if you snap at only some of the bait.