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[Teh Other Dave]

The problem with confiscating these cruise ships is that they'll be worthless after we ban them from enetring our ports ever again.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Me. We're flat out.

So are we. If anything we're busier now than leading into the staged shutdowns.

Though I have noticed a reduction of vehicles on the roads. Probably close to a 3rd less in fact.

 

[fatprop]

A lot of commentators, who would normally be supportive of helping foreign nationals, have been bashing the government for not going into full lockdown for the past 3 weeks so it is hard for them to turn around and advocate for the staff to be brought onshore and risk community infection. The result is Morrison has basically no political pressure to help them at all.

I tend to agree we should help - once the ship owners agree to pay the bills

 

[Up the Guts]

I tend to agree we should help - once the ship owners agree to pay the bills

I agree, should get everyone to come to the party quickly. The longer you delay assisting the more likely it is that you get larger numbers infected and so more resources need to be diverted to helping them (obviously, you want to avoid people from getting sick as well from a humanitarian pov).

 

[fatprop]

I agree, should get everyone to come to the party quickly. The longer you delay assisting the more likely it is that you get larger numbers infected and so more resources need to be diverted to helping them (obviously, you want to avoid people from getting sick as well from a humanitarian pov).

It will be fun to see how much they actually value these employees

 

[Aurelius]

If the figure for today stays at 5136, the last few days case growth look like this:

29/03 - 9.45%
30/03 - 6.68%
31/03 - 7.32%
01/04 - 6.64%
02/04 - 5.59%

Very encouraging, but the states should also be declaring the number of recoveries too. If Victoria can do it then surely other states can based on their criteria?

If this continues then pretty soon the number of recoveries will start to outnumber the new cases and the overall numbers will start dropping.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Very encouraging, but the states should also be declaring the number of recoveries too. If Victoria can do it then surely other states can based on their criteria?

If this continues then pretty soon the number of recoveries will start to outnumber the new cases and the overall numbers will start dropping.

As of 2:30pm on covid19data.com.au there were only 183 new cases reported. If my math is right that's a touch under 3.6% for the day.

Edit: Checking again and the total cases for today comes in at 222. A little under 4.5% for the day.

 

[fatprop]

A really good podcast interviewing an ICU director on the issues

https://quillette.com/2020/04/01/po...-hamad-general-hospital-on-treating-covid-19/

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Ruby Princess has also left a Covid-19 cluster in its NZ wake:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-...onsible-for-hundreds-of-australian-cases.html

Whoever let it dock in Napier a day after a ban on cruise ships docking was implemented has a lot to answer for.

EDIT: on both sides of the Tasman, your cluster being far larger & more fatal than ours.

 

[Dismal Pillock]

Ruby Princess has also left a Covid-19 cluster in its NZ wake:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-...onsible-for-hundreds-of-australian-cases.html

Whoever let it dock in Napier a day after a ban on cruise ships docking was implemented has a lot to answer for.

I would literally be grabbing a life jacket and taking my chances in the briny depths if I was stuck on that fuckign thing

 

[Dctarget]

They've stopped tracking scenarios 3 & 5.

 

[Derpus]

I would literally be grabbing a life jacket and taking my chances in the briny depths if I was stuck on that fuckign thing

would you be on a cruise though? who the fuck chooses that hellish deathcruise even in ordinary times....

 

[Ignoto]

Whoever let it dock in Napier a day after a ban on cruise ships docking was implemented has a lot to answer for.

The journos are claiming they've been given the emails between the Doc onboard the ship and NSW Health, where NSW Health cleared them to kick the passengers off; https://www.9news.com.au/national/c...alia-nsw/41ea2774-6c76-4808-b330-88565ff2aea9

 

[Dismal Pillock]

would you be on a cruise though? who the fuck chooses that hellish deathcruise even in ordinary times..

yeah I7d be biffed overbaord anway after 10 seconds of my Black Sabbath karaoke..

when I think "cruise ships" my first thought is the David Foster Wallace article.....

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...FpbnxyaGV0b3JpY2lpfGd4OjYwMjliZmYyYWI3NzI1YTk

Total mastery of The Word.

 

[Derpus]

yeah I7d be biffed overbaord anway after 10 seconds of my Black Sabbath karaoke..

when I think "cruise ships" my first thought is the David Foster Wallace article...

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...FpbnxyaGV0b3JpY2lpfGd4OjYwMjliZmYyYWI3NzI1YTk

Total mastery of The Word.

I actually read that (quite drunk and LOCKED IN MY FUCKING HOUSE FOR THREE WEEKS). Pretty entertaining even if the guy is a condescending fluffybunny.

 

[Aurelius]

would you be on a cruise though? who the fuck chooses that hellish deathcruise even in ordinary times..

Ever since mankind's ancestors slithered out of the oceans countless eons ago, the path of our evolution has been inexorably away from the water, so first we became creatures of land, then we learned to master the skies and, hopefully within our lifetimes, space.

So people who voluntarily hang out on cruise ships and at beaches for fun are literally going against millions of years of genetic programming. Now, I'm not quite saying that cruise and/or beach people are genetic throwbacks, but something about them is deeply unnatural.

 

[kiap]

They've stopped tracking scenarios 3 & 5.

Scenario 5: No Mitigation (0.0% daily reduction in growth rate) i.e. continued exponential growth at current 3 day average rate.​

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[Lindommer]

As of 2:30pm on covid19data.com.au there were only 183 new cases reported. If my math is right that's a touch under 3.6% for the day.

Edit: Checking again and the total cases for today comes in at 222. A little under 4.5% for the day.

Somewhat encouraging. But, there were 21 deaths Australia-wide in March and now seven in the first three days of April. Not good.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Interesting read on Sweden's Covid-19 strategy:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/he...f-the-world-engaging-in-a-reckless-experiment

Key element for mine is the total transparency: as the article says, if Tegnell & the people advising him have got it horribly, mass-fatality wrong it'll happen in plain sight & the public can take matters into their own hands if they choose.

 

[Up the Guts]

Somewhat encouraging. But, there were 21 deaths Australia-wide in March and now seven in the first three days of April. Not good.

That’s simply because of the lag time between infection and death.