NSW JRU State Championships & Representative Teams 2012

[Man on the hill]

You guys are the biggest bunch of immature ... blah blah blah... he is suspended for >2 weeks... blah blah blah ...they're number 1 game (League takes the place).

doodle - 780 words later & I'm unsure what your point is. You opine that the flower of the north shore can do no wrong and that all referees are biased cheats. The obvious answer - become a for real whistle blower and prove you can do a better job - put up or shut up, but spare us your monotonous drivel.

 

[random2]

and yet when Paddy Olver from the Gordon team is cited for punching Conor Menzies in the face once, he is suspended for >2 weeks.

Defiantly would have been worth the 2 week ban. Conor Menzies is the definition of a cheat, good player though.

 

[Sydneybra]

Hey, lets tell every ref to give out fair penalty counts, seems logical. Im kidding that would ruin the game.

 

[doondoonsley]

You're really missing the point. I'm trying to outline a problem, not a solution. That can be your job if it makes you feel important.
All I care is that refs stop being unreasonable towards Gordon, and any other team that feels as if they have been getting the "raw end of the pineapple" as 10 to 12 aptly put it.

 

[whatever]

You're really missing the point. I'm trying to outline a problem, not a solution. That can be your job if it makes you feel important.
All I care is that refs stop being unreasonable towards Gordon, and any other team that feels as if they have been getting the "raw end of the pineapple" as 10 to 12 aptly put it.

Jez man, you have repeated your dribble multiple times now; move on.

 

[whatever]

It's called rhetoric, and the antics that have instigated this frustration have been repeated for the last 5 years. Tell the refs to stop repeating their dribble, and for them to move on.
I really don't see where I can go from here, they're my points, refute them, don't ask for more if you can't handle what I've already presented to you.

Ok, I will do it: refs stop picking on Gordon - no more, you evil referees - hear me - no more.

Now Doondoonsley, it is a cold night put on your pjs, say your prayers and hop into the nice warm bed and have a stress free sleep as they have been told, they will not dare pick on Gordon anymore.

 

[whatever]

Why are you so patronising?
You're not worth arguing with.

Mate, seriously no one can do anymore; except officials from Gordon, if they believe there is an issue they should take it up with the NSWJRU with an official complaint.

So you should take the matter up with your club.

 

[wreckless]

So you should take the matter up with your club.

Or with your therapist!

 

[EyesWideOpen]

Doondoonsley has expressed a point of view ( to which he is entitled) and whether you agree with him or not, what a disgraceful exhibition of bullying and taunting he (and we) have had to endure from those who have responded with these purile personal attacks from behind a hedge of anonimity. And, no! - personal attacks on another is NOT a responding point of view. Such behaviour is ignorant, distasteful and shameful!
If you disgaree with Doondoonsley, do as you ask of him (and as I suspect you would do if face to face or identifiable) and come up with your own facts, observations........ whatever...... to refute his claims intellegently and politely and dispense with the personal insults. I would hate to think that any of the lads who read this forum get the impression that such behaviour is acceptable when we are trying to educate them that exactly the opposite is the case. As the old rugby adage goes "play the ball, not the man".

 

[Man on the hill]

Doondoonsley has expressed a point of view ....

Please know what you support before you get too involved - the quotes below are from from Doodle donger and were quoted at #126 in the GPS Sydney 16 thread by Newbie. The original quote has since been "removed" and was acknowldged by DD as being zapped by uberlord Lee Grant.

"Don't get me started on scholarship talk, I saw that forum and really couldn't be bothered reading through it, though I might just make a post without reading all the hundreds of posts on it."

and later

"I shall apply my debating skills to my love for rugby and see how I do. I have a reputation among my peers at school as the guy who engages in long and unnecessary arguments online that seem to go for ever. They're called "Doons Rants". This forum better get prepared for them. My current record is 4 A4 pagers worth in one Facebook comment, I'll try and top that on this haha."


Fighting words if ever I heard any.

YES - we all are entitled to an opinion, however, respect is a two way street, and perhaps if you are patient enough to read his mini diatribes (here and in other strands) you might see the quotes not as threats but as a description of his MO.

 

[Man on the hill]

Gordon were the reigning champions in this age group, the same team won the state championships in the under 16's age group the year before in a great game against Paramatta.

Yes it was a great game, probably the best game on the day as it typically is (mainly because their is genuine competition in the 16s as opposed to the 17s). Your thoughts on the refereeing? Particulary the 2 game altering decisions in the last 90 seconds? & for the record I knew boys in both teams, so no bias, just curious.

 

[whatever]

Doondoonsley has expressed a point of view ( to which he is entitled) and whether you agree with him or not, what a disgraceful exhibition of bullying and taunting he (and we) have had to endure from those who have responded with these purile personal attacks from behind a hedge of anonimity. And, no! - personal attacks on another is NOT a responding point of view. Such behaviour is ignorant, distasteful and shameful!
If you disgaree with Doondoonsley, do as you ask of him (and as I suspect you would do if face to face or identifiable) and come up with your own facts, observations.... whatever.. to refute his claims intellegently and politely and dispense with the personal insults. I would hate to think that any of the lads who read this forum get the impression that such behaviour is acceptable when we are trying to educate them that exactly the opposite is the case. As the old rugby adage goes "play the ball, not the man".

I thought this was a serious comment on his complaint:

Mate, seriously no one can do anymore; except officials from Gordon, if they believe there is an issue they should take it up with the NSWJRU with an official complaint.

So you should take the matter up with your club.

What else can be done outside of agreeing or disagreeing with his diatribe.

 

[whatever]

That was the only example of you saying something constructive, and even so it wasn't even an argument, it was a concession of no longer having anything to argue about, you finally decided to stop trolling and bullying in anonymity because you had lost the argument, and decided to offer some kind of solution to my problems.
As for the solution, I am not in a powerful enough position to convince anyone to make any complaints unfortunately. The reason no one from Gordon in a more powerful position has made any official complaint (in regards to refs) is because most Gordon people are too calm, measured and conservative to do so, and it takes someone radical, and opposed to these sort of views (like myself) to instigate/inspire awareness on the disgruntled opinion of many within the Gordon camp.

Mate, that is the point - what you have raised is someone's (yours) opinion of officials and their performance. It is subjective and only at a club (Gordon) level can it be raised at an official (NSWJU) level.

PS: Didn't you like my Gordon prayer? Clubs would pay good money to quote that ditty at after game drinks.

 

[whatever]

I don't really know how to respond to your comment other than to agree with you because you stated a fact - it can only be raised at an NSWJRU level. My intention was never to get it to that point but rather raise awareness that it was happening. If I do inspire a Gordon person in a position of power to raise it then, all the better, but that was never my intention. My intention was just to try and raise awareness of the injustice that I, and a lot of people, feel has been happening, rather than to take it to court if you get my analogy.

You're prayer was creative, I'll give you that, but you had a pretty good template to work with, you just had to substitute words in for the most part, but cudos to you. Might I add that Gordon (as the team of choice) was really just a variable term/team used, and it could be applied to any team, you just have to subsitute the words.
Fortunately for Gordon, the only time the prayer could be used is in senior grades, because juniors from other teams would never beat Gordon and therefore never be in a position to use it haha!

Or scull in after game drinks at the local watering hole (to young for that young lad).

Doonsley, when the NSW U16s Schools squad is announced in a week or so; you will note my negative comments regarding the non-selection of CCC players. I will then get told to stop whinging as all the non-CCC players were clearly better selections - I will argue against that and get hammered by all the pro-GPSers - but that's life. I will have my say and everyone else will have theirs.

 

[Newbie]

... ... ... ... ... ... you will note my negative comments regarding the non-selection of CCC players. I will then get told to stop whinging as all the non-CCC players were clearly better selections - I will argue against that and get hammered by all the pro-GPSers - but that's life... ... ... ... ... ...

Whatever, as a fellow NSWCCC supporter I agree. Only if the NSWRU and/or NSWSRU could see how fertile the CCC system was.

As it stands NSWCCC has just won the U/15 ASSRL title tonight beating QLD and NSWCHS along the way! Of the 13 that were later selected in the Australian team NSWCCC had 9 selected!

These are boys who could have easily grown up playing rugby had NSWRU taken the time to visit such schools!

 

[Wannabe Selector]

Whatever, as a fellow NSWCCC supporter I agree. Only if the NSWRU and/or NSWSRU could see how fertile the CCC system was.

As it stands NSWCCC has just won the U/15 ASSRL title tonight beating QLD and NSWCHS along the way! Of the 13 that were later selected in the Australian team NSWCCC had 9 selected!

These are boys who could have easily grown up playing rugby had NSWRU taken the time to visit such schools!

Newbie do you happen to know the league u15s team selected for Oz could you post if you can cheers

 

[Wannabe Selector]

As per your request

Thanks just looking for a name of a work colleagues son do you happen to have the reserves names.

 

[Newbie]

Thanks just looking for a name of a work colleagues son do you happen to have the reserves names.

Myself and others have often wondered why, but they only ever select 13 players for the U/15's. Possibly because it is only a merit team that doesn't play an actual representative game!

 

[Newbie]

I'm going to delete it now if it's ok with you!

 

[whatever]

Whatever, as a fellow NSWCCC supporter I agree. Only if the NSWRU and/or NSWSRU could see how fertile the CCC system was.

As it stands NSWCCC has just won the U/15 ASSRL title tonight beating QLD and NSWCHS along the way! Of the 13 that were later selected in the Australian team NSWCCC had 9 selected!

These are boys who could have easily grown up playing rugby had NSWRU taken the time to visit such schools!

Yep, i pointed out 3 players from CCC (I believe have the goods) in the NSW U16s thread. One is a rugby player, 2 are leaguies; although I found out one has been a member of JGS in 2010/11 and 2011/12 (ARU obviously see potential) as well as playing two years in a row for CCC at the U16s School Titles, so he is no dumbie to rugby. It is really up to the school selectors to see their potential get them into the NSW School Squad then try to convert across them from league - and really this is the age, by U18s they are full blown leaguies. You just need to look at the difference between how CCC U16s sides go against the other associations (extremely competitive) then compare how the CCC U18s go (not so competitive)