2012 Rugby Championship Game 2 New Zealand vs Australia - 25 August

[fatprop]

Cummins is currently smashing Eastwood at the moment

I Like seeing units going hard

 

[The Snout]

I thought a good point was made last night during the game. We live in a country where AFL is big, yet we can't kick and we can't catch ? Might be time to explore all options available boys. I'm sure there's plenty of coaches down here in the big greasy pizza that could help us out.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Inman has the potential to step up, but we're yet to see it at Super level. More development required, but there is a spot for him next year potentially if he continues to improve. Nobody since Morts has absolutely demanded the 13 jersey. He'll need a big season in 2013.

 

[Dan54]

'The tackled player seems to have a period of grace to either plant the ball or pass it while on the ground but still with momentum. The tackler seems to be able to do nothing until they get to their feet. An inconsistancy, I agree.'
A tackled player seems to have a period of grace to plant or pass ball ,I agree, but a player of his feet whether he a tackler or not cannot play thye ball in any way.

 

[Ruggo]

Don't hold back brother. The time for niceties is over

I'm sick of seeing Australian rugby sides piss opportunity away.

Wallabies just pissed the Bledisloe away
Brumbies pissed their opportunity to play finals rugby away
Reds pissed their opportunity to advance further into the finals and have a real crack at defending their title away.
Tahs, Force and Rebels pissed their whole fucking seasons away.

The piss weak mentality in Australian rugby is sucking my love for the game away. Just procrastinating about it makes the blood boil.

Fuck it, I'm going fishing instead.

 

[Waylon]

Well, my boy thinks AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) should have to withdraw from partnering Beale in the Wallaby pie eating contests.

I thought one of the Fainga brothers was jiggling excessively when he ran on in the second half.

We were just noticing it more because the boy is trying out for U16 reps and is very concious of bodyfat percentages. Some of the top teams he has played against this year were built like greyhounds, even the props were lean.

Everyone is when they are 16

 

[drewprint]

What's Chris Latham up to nowdays?

 

[teach]

Everyone is when they are 16

Not mine. He is 110kg and 6 foot. he knows he is a couple of pies away from the reserve bench.

 

[Waylon]

Not mine. He is 110kg and 6 foot. he knows he is a couple of pies away from the reserve bench.

Feed him tins and tins of tuna, fruit and vegetables........and nothing else. He's going to be a big lad. Don't let him turn to blubber. Doed he use that frame to hurt people or does he tip toe about?

 

[The Red Baron]

'The tackled player seems to have a period of grace to either plant the ball or pass it while on the ground but still with momentum. The tackler seems to be able to do nothing until they get to their feet. An inconsistancy, I agree.'
A tackled player seems to have a period of grace to plant or pass ball ,I agree, but a player of his feet whether he a tackler or not cannot play thye ball in any way.

Spot on I think. As far as I am aware, Genia, even though he was the tackler, never released the tackled player and played the ball while off his feet. As soon as a player goes off their feet, they are not able to participate in the play.

I think the interpretation of the penalty is the cause for conjecture. Owens felt that Genia had 'cynically' infringed. Hence the yellow card. I believe that Genia was guilty of 2 infringements. He did not release the tackled player (although the ball was played quick, so it can be argued that he had insufficient time to release the tackled player). The other offense was playing the ball while off the ground.

Anyway, he got a yellow. No amount of bellyaching will change that.

 

[Hairy Test Eagle]

The wallabies forum is turning into a proud fathers forum.

 

[Mr Doug]

We don't need to 'read up on NZ rugby history'...we grew up in it. If you think SBW has no loyalty, that's your opinion. Plenty of NZers have no issue at all with how SBW handles his own affairs..and I dare say the same thing about most of the guys he plays with as well.

So Bullrush, you're either a dual-poster, (also going under the name of "Epi"), or you think you're qualified to reply on behalf of all members of this forum!
My comments were directed to Epi, who may, or may not have less appreciation/knowledge of NZ culture than you!
In future try to think before engaging your "I will speak for all forum members" brain.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Everyone is when they are 16

Not mine. He is 110kg and 6 foot. he knows he is a couple of pies away from the reserve bench.

Christ Teach that is a big lad for a 15 year old.

Do you live on a farm to keep him fed? Love to be your butcher.

Back in the day when we were dreaming about how good we were, that would have guaranteed him legend status as a Frontrower for the Darkness. I recall 16 stone (100kg) was the target weight for a prop in 1980. There wouldn't have been too many in world rugby back then much bigger than that.

Little wonder we struggle against the Junior Darknessers up against lads like yours. Any chance you have some mining skills? Plenty of jobs over here, that pay well. Only 4 years residency needed for citizenship.

 

[Mr Doug]

Hey All
First post. Congrats to the ABs. Thoroughly deserved. Shame Aust rugby has come to this. On a more positive note I was just reading an article by David Long on stuff.co.nz and I quote this gem.:The Wallabies' next test in the Rugby Championship is against the Wallabies in a fortnight and Cooper says they won't have any problem bouncing back from this defeat."
Looks like were pretty confident we can beat ourselves so maybe we won't finish last in the RC..
T

Welcome aboard Tiger, that's a gem, but who do we select in each of the two Wallaby teams? It should give Robbie a chance to test some more "combinations"!!

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Mr Doug,

One can only think what the score could have been without the impact of Mr Doug's (R) LRJ's.

Thay have had a lot of use of late and maybe we needed to change the batteries at 1/2 time, or re bless them. Seemed to be working Ok at Oranges.

I think that they are only apprentice LRJ's yet andwhile they have been rather useful so far the full & true power has yet to be unleashed.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

For all the hits he takes,this continued "failed to implement" is a missed shot. JONs second term has been about cost cutting and financial responsibility. If others before him hadn't rushed maybe a third tier would exist. I question if in the financial climate of JONs second term how he could implement a successful and accepted third tier. At this point in time, it's a want, not something that is being denied.

The ARU made a profit of $30m from RWC 2003.
This money should have been plowed into a 3rd tier comp for however long it took - on making a loss of $4m in the first year JON rode in and plowed the seedling under. It should have been permitted to run for at least 2 or 3 seasons and then its future re-evaluated - losses in the order of $4m per annum would have only spent less than half this RWC windfall in that time.
Having been started in 2007 the ARC would have been a 3 year old proposition when the TV rights came up for Sanzar by June 2009 - having a provincial championship would have placed the ARU on an equal footing with the SARU and NZRU and the ARU might have squeezed some more money out of the deal and thereby been able to pay for the 3rd tier comp out of recurrent revenue instead of the $30m windfall.
Some justification for continuing the comp beyond the first year was therefore easily found.
Of course the ARC was not JON's baby and so it had to be killed off on his return.
Therefore, the decision not to persevere with the ARC was not necessarily inevitable financially and has been disastrous for the Wallabies. Its not as if that $30m was spent in any recognisable way.

 

[teach]

Christ Teach that is a big lad for a 15 year old.

Do you live on a farm to keep him fed? Love to be your butcher.

Back in the day when we were dreaming about how good we were, that would have guaranteed him legend status as a Frontrower for the Darkness. I recall 16 stone (100kg) was the target weight for a prop in 1980. There wouldn't have been too many in world rugby back then much bigger than that.

Little wonder we struggle against the Junior Darknessers up against lads like yours. Any chance you have some mining skills? Plenty of jobs over here, that pay well. Only 4 years residency needed for citizenship.

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Yes he is a prop. I have been schooling him in the dark arts of the front row since wee fella grade. He ended up in my team again for most of the season before getting the call up to the 1st XV so had to learn to play both sides of the scrum. He is thinning down as he matures. I make him play touch rugby during the off season to keep his ball skills up. He has plenty of work to do and Brad Thorns training video was an inspiration to him. He is also lucky that we have an ex All Black as a sports coordinator here at school so his is worked pretty hard pre season. He played all season in the U18 grade so got used to taking on bigger older props. Brings a tear to the eye of an old prop to see him shunting his side of the scrum around!

Unfortunately he has dreams of playing for the Hurricanes one day for some reason I can't work out. Blasphemy! At least he doesn't want to go to Auckland.

He loves playing Aussies. We regularly get touring teams and he always volunteers. Got to shove some Mudgee and Sydney grammar boys around a while ago.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

The offer still stands Teach.

$1.30 AUD to NZD. Not Auckland. All the "S"'s. Sun, Sand, Surf, Shielas, Sydney, Sandwiches.

 

[TSR]

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Yes he is a prop. I have been schooling him in the dark arts of the front row since wee fella grade. He ended up in my team again for most of the season before getting the call up to the 1st XV so had to learn to play both sides of the scrum. He is thinning down as he matures. I make him play touch rugby during the off season to keep his ball skills up. He has plenty of work to do and Brad Thorns training video was an inspiration to him. He is also lucky that we have an ex All Black as a sports coordinator here at school so his is worked pretty hard pre season. He played all season in the U18 grade so got used to taking on bigger older props. Brings a tear to the eye of an old prop to see him shunting his side of the scrum around!

Unfortunately he has dreams of playing for the Hurricanes one day for some reason I can't work out. Blasphemy! At least he doesn't want to go to Auckland.

He loves playing Aussies. We regularly get touring teams and he always volunteers. Got to shove some Mudgee and Sydney grammar boys around a while ago.

So Teach, when are you moving over here. I am sure you'll get used to seeing the young fella sing Waltzing Matilda.

And he can't play for the Hurricanes over here - just think of it as saving him from himself.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

...snip...

The thing that impressed me about the Wobbs last night was that the last scoring play, a DC penalty, was at 48 minutes. That's pretty resolute defence from AUS and something to build on. Notwithstanding the Wallabies are still ranked 2 in the rugby world. I guess Aussie fans are just as hard on their players and coach as Kiwis and will not be satisfied until they are #1.

I stumbled on the replay at the 55 minute mark while channel surfing on Fox 3.
The score was 22-0 at that point.

Despite the shithouseness of our attack, the Men in Gold kept a rampant Darkness scoreless for the last 25 minutes of the game.

The Tahs had a statistic like that, no points in the last 1/4 of the match for the last 10 (or similar) matches of S15 this year. That must be a positive.

All defence and no attack.