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Nev Cottrell (35)
Perhaps. Can you outline the methods Bill has in place/ stated they will do, to reform the budget, economy or anything?
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Perhaps. Can you outline the methods Bill has in place/ stated they will do, to reform the budget, economy or anything?
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Mark Ella (57)
Well the price on carbon was a economic reform as much as it was environmental. The Mining tax was met with a lot of hyperbole but it raised very little money. It couldn't have been doing that much damage if it was lying dormant for profits to pick up. The mining tax didn't just go did it? Nope, reformist super increases went with it in a shitty little deal brought on by the very people who claimed they would never do deals with a minor party. It was an unrealistic statement from the outset but hey, he is the idiot that made it and he should be held to account for it.
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Mark Ella (57)
Didn't a global economic climate and falling terms of trade leave it. Doesn't fit the conservative mantra I know. The question is what is the Coalition (yes they are the ones in government unless you haven't noticed that) going to do to address falling terms of trade?
Soley rely on digging stuff out of the ground even though it isn't worth as much in the current global economical environment? Price Australian intellect out of the Tertiary education system so we can export those places?
Serious questions Runner, what is the government going to do to address them?
Soley rely on digging stuff out of the ground even though it isn't worth as much in the current global economical environment? Price Australian intellect out of the Tertiary education system so we can export those places?
Serious questions Runner, what is the government going to do to address them?
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Mark Ella (57)
I would really like to see your rationale for those answers, because in country NSW service availability is a massive issue, and people are being told to suck it up as their is just no intention to upgrade infrastructure without direct payment of costs by the customer.
Indeed if you consider that most actual work is now outsourced to contractors the workforce hasn't decreased greatly, just on paper, along with their obligations to said workers. As I said the "managers" have grown exponentially though.
The interesting thing is one of my uncles retired (took redundancy) from Telstra after 30+ years as one of the most senior and qualified technicians in NSW. He finished on Friday and walked back in as a contractor on more than twice the money on the Monday, in the same office, doing the same job. Efficiency my arse. Shortly after he and a friend (also ex-Telecom) were head hunted by NEC to run a major installation upgrade in Japan, (so much for Telecom not training their people well).
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Mark Ella (57)
Dig more up and do away with the three mines policy for Uranium and sell that shit to all comers regardless of their Nuclear Weapons status for a handshake that our shit won't be used to make weapons, they can use the stuff they had earmarked for fuel for weapons as our stuff frees it up. Maybe also on the agenda is a high level waste dump as it is a bit rich to sell the crap to the world but refuse to take the waste.
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Mark Ella (57)
What is the Coalition going to do?
Revenues? Oh wait...
Tax evasion by multinationals? Lots of bluster, but little or no action.
Increasing the GDP by building the NBN? No, they are building the Mtm which will send Australia backwards.
Etc.
Etc.
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Nev Cottrell (35)
The Libs are the government, but the opposition says no to everything with the water melon mates then the government ( the political direction and control exercised over the actions of the members, citizens, or inhabitants of communities, societies, and states; direction of the affairs of a state, community, etc.; political administration: ) which would include the ALP as they are taking an active part via saying no to items via their position in the senate. So what will Bill do?
We he sell off items like Hawke and Keating as privatization?
Will they move industrial relations forward or go even futher back to aid the union movement which owns them.
Will they increase taxes?
Will they cut expenditure and where?
No answers to these questions except to say that the Libs have it all wrong.
The carbon tax was being abolished by ALP and the mining tax was and will always be one other the biggest jokes in australia's economic and political history.
We he sell off items like Hawke and Keating as privatization?
Will they move industrial relations forward or go even futher back to aid the union movement which owns them.
Will they increase taxes?
Will they cut expenditure and where?
No answers to these questions except to say that the Libs have it all wrong.
The carbon tax was being abolished by ALP and the mining tax was and will always be one other the biggest jokes in australia's economic and political history.
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Mark Ella (57)
1. Is the National Party an inconsequential part of the Coalition? Probably so, seeing as they seem to be in lock-step with the Liberal Party, and when the Liberal Party says "Jump" the National Party asks "How high?".
2. Revenues (seems to be a dirty word in the Coalition). Increasing taxes and/or cutting services, and/or privatisation, is a lazy way to balance the books. Unfortunately Sloppy Joe seems to rely on lazy economics.
boyo
Mark Ella (57)
Not evasion. Try reading post 2807. FYI the Coalition is in power, what are they going to do?
Go on, recite the Coalition mantra: "Coalition good, ALP bad".
Feel better now?
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Still not providing any information bout ALP.
The distraction of coalition with the Nationals etc will not remove the facts that a budget has been put and measures have been oppossed.
The ALP is part of the government process and their solution is not problem exists so when and if ALP get back in we will just do what we did.
If the ALP can't see that this will not work don't be surprised if Australians at the next election ensure not only a Lib lower house but an upper one as well.
Watch Joe he will publish documents in the Eco report that will contain figures from Treasury that will show what the position is and what it would have been if the ALP had passed the legislation. They will have the gap hung around their necks. No sensible
The distraction of coalition with the Nationals etc will not remove the facts that a budget has been put and measures have been oppossed.
The ALP is part of the government process and their solution is not problem exists so when and if ALP get back in we will just do what we did.
If the ALP can't see that this will not work don't be surprised if Australians at the next election ensure not only a Lib lower house but an upper one as well.
Watch Joe he will publish documents in the Eco report that will contain figures from Treasury that will show what the position is and what it would have been if the ALP had passed the legislation. They will have the gap hung around their necks. No sensible
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Mark Ella (57)
Runner, don't forget that Hawke/Keating sold off strategic assets as part of their deregulation agenda to open the economy. You make it sound like it was simply done to pay off debt which just isn't true.
The other big thing is that this government has offered nothing to address unemployment which is rising. The spin and rhetoric about the debt fails to accept that the major component of why we went into debt was to keep a huge amount of people employed.
Regarding the Parliament, it is up to the government to make it work. Their policy is more at fault for not passing than those opposing it. It is up to them to negotiate it through the parliament. "The adults are in charge" in their own words remember. Hawke and Keating managed it. Keating got the Native Title act through remember despite massive hysteria back in the day.
The far right are being highly exposed in their ability to negotiate and run capable government. I stress the far right because others in this government have proven the ability to work with the parliament in a mature manner.
The other big thing is that this government has offered nothing to address unemployment which is rising. The spin and rhetoric about the debt fails to accept that the major component of why we went into debt was to keep a huge amount of people employed.
Regarding the Parliament, it is up to the government to make it work. Their policy is more at fault for not passing than those opposing it. It is up to them to negotiate it through the parliament. "The adults are in charge" in their own words remember. Hawke and Keating managed it. Keating got the Native Title act through remember despite massive hysteria back in the day.
The far right are being highly exposed in their ability to negotiate and run capable government. I stress the far right because others in this government have proven the ability to work with the parliament in a mature manner.
Ruggo
Mark Ella (57)
Sounds like you have already written the memorandum of understanding for him to go with it.
No real problems with services in Sydney; it is an area of size enough to justify investment and competition
Country services? They will always be below par without government subsidies, too few people too justify any major investment, live in population densities of Hong Kong, you have enough volume, a small country town?
As for your uncle, good on him, the cream will always be rewarded
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Nev Cottrell (35)
As I have said before I would agree with your first paragraph regarding reform and debt.
If the economy grows then jobs will develop e.g. remove red tape from business which is underway, put confidence back by having a responsible opposition allowing the economic issues to be address. Yes Libs should act on productivity but have put it off. But remember 5.6 is low when many economist now view 5% as zero where it was 2% as zero in the past.
Hawke and Keating had a co-operative Lib opposition who passed a great deal of their agenda, a point often forgotten just as Rudd/Gillard?Rudd got 95% through. The adults are in charge of half of parliament and have an ALP on NO pills to anything.
Abbott will also get the 95% through as well, often with Labor support
The balance is where the argument is
Abbott will have to deal with Palmer to get the more radical reforms through, and we clearly see the guy has no set agenda/moral position, he f*ckin is random
So it will always look like a mess, and the mess suits both Labor and Palmer
boyo
Mark Ella (57)
An example of a proposal/policy that is poorly thought through.
So glad that the adults are in charge. They couldn't run a choko vine over a shithouse.
GP co-payment would crush NSW emergency departments: report
"Dr Owler said the policy was "driven by a fiscal and economic outlook, there is no consideration of … the health care needs of the Australian community."
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/gp-copayment-would-crush-nsw-emergency-departments-report-20141007-10rbih.html#ixzz3FW9GJ0pQ
So glad that the adults are in charge. They couldn't run a choko vine over a shithouse.
GP co-payment would crush NSW emergency departments: report
"Dr Owler said the policy was "driven by a fiscal and economic outlook, there is no consideration of … the health care needs of the Australian community."
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/gp-copayment-would-crush-nsw-emergency-departments-report-20141007-10rbih.html#ixzz3FW9GJ0pQ
boyo
Mark Ella (57)
How's that one million jobs going TA?
"Open for business"? Pfft.
Australia's jobless rate to be second-worst in Asia-Pacific region: IMF
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australias-jobless-rate-to-be-secondworst-in-asiapacific-region-imf-20141008-10rnq9.html#ixzz3FWC4dm00
"Open for business"? Pfft.
Australia's jobless rate to be second-worst in Asia-Pacific region: IMF
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australias-jobless-rate-to-be-secondworst-in-asiapacific-region-imf-20141008-10rnq9.html#ixzz3FWC4dm00
boyo
Mark Ella (57)
Just to be clear, I am not advocating wrong-doing.
This calls into question the motives for such an RC. A witch-hunt perhaps? Surely it wasn't politically motivated.
Unions royal commission extension reveals true motivations
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...reveals-true-motivations-20141008-10rphm.html
"The real reason for the extension now comes to the fore: Simply put, the union royal commission has not yet delivered the political bang for the public buck its champions had so eagerly anticipated."
This calls into question the motives for such an RC. A witch-hunt perhaps? Surely it wasn't politically motivated.
Unions royal commission extension reveals true motivations
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...reveals-true-motivations-20141008-10rphm.html
"The real reason for the extension now comes to the fore: Simply put, the union royal commission has not yet delivered the political bang for the public buck its champions had so eagerly anticipated."
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