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Federal Coalition Government 2013-?

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redstragic

Alan Cameron (40)
I hate the term red tape because it can mean anything to anyone. Unnessasary government regulation is a long piece of string. Campbell ended the red tape and we were going to get dredge spoil dumped on the reef. The red tape needs to be proportional.
 

boyo

Mark Ella (57)
Joe Public loses again.

"For a long time it has been a myth peddled by the private health insurers that they only act in the best interests of their members.
This could not be further from the reality today. Private health insurers serve their shareholders, meaning that they don't necessarily seek to actively protect or advance models of care that result in the best health outcomes for their members."

"As the population ages, innovation will be essential in providing the level of care we expect. Make no mistake, our hospitals, like many others, lead the way in driving efficiencies and reducing costs. Sustainable models of care are in the interests of all Australians and the private-health sector plays a pivotal role here. Focusing just on driving prices down and profits up, however, will limit the imagination of Australian health and hospital providers. After all, the last thing we need in Australia is a US style of "managed care". World Health Organisation data shows that Australia's spend per capita is less than that of the USA, with far better health outcomes."

Patients the losers with Medibank privatisation
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/patients-the-losers-with-medibank-privatisation-20141009-10r5zc.html
 

Runner

Nev Cottrell (35)
Early on yes, but can you seriously say the bolded part with a straight face in regards to the Native Title Act which I have cited?

"Red tape" is just more rhetoric Runner. Highlight some "red tape" and lets debate them on merit and with some context. Better still let's do that with "green tape".

Perhaps if you read this about Native Title you will see that the ALP role was not as clear as folks think or remember

http://www.hrca.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/native-title-a-simple-guide.pdf

Red tape is
excessive bureaucracy or adherence to official rules and formalities. Try this article for just a few examples.

http://theconversation.com/what-is-red-tape-and-why-is-it-a-problem-for-small-firms-6601

We can also throw in Green Tape which is time-consuming bureaucratic procedures or regulations relating to environmental concerns
 

boyo

Mark Ella (57)
They have lied about many things - on SBS TA said on the night before the 2013 election: “No cuts to education, no cuts to health, no change to pensions, no change to the GST and no cuts to the ABC or SBS.


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Government plans to double SBS ads
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-plans-to-double-sbs-ads-20141011-114e5g.html

"SBS is a taxpayer-funded organisation. It is not a place for high-level amounts of advertising. This would skew completely the purpose of SBS"
 

Runner

Nev Cottrell (35)
Simple with 23 million and multiple private channels people we don't need a second gov't network like SBS. Role it inro ABC and have a much more impartial Insight place replace Q and A and Dateline replace the biased 7.30 report.

We are all winners
 

boyo

Mark Ella (57)
Simple with 23 million and multiple private channels people we don't need a second gov't network like SBS. Role it inro ABC and have a much more impartial Insight place replace Q and A and Dateline replace the biased 7.30 report.

We are all winners


No.

Spell-check on the fritz?
 

boyo

Mark Ella (57)
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boyo

Mark Ella (57)
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Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
Perhaps if you read this about Native Title you will see that the ALP role was not as clear as folks think or remember

http://www.hrca.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/native-title-a-simple-guide.pdf

Red tape is
excessive bureaucracy or adherence to official rules and formalities. Try this article for just a few examples.

http://theconversation.com/what-is-red-tape-and-why-is-it-a-problem-for-small-firms-6601

We can also throw in Green Tape which is time-consuming bureaucratic procedures or regulations relating to environmental concerns


You are missing the point Runner. The government acted upon the High Courts decision over Mabo and took the tougher and just route of reinforcing the decision into legislation rather than the next government legislating away the High Courts Wik decision. Prime Minister at the time is a renowned anglophile but that is beside the point.

Red tape is just rhetoric for regulation but regulation is hardly just there for the sake of having regulation although I respect that some may want to debate the merit of that statement.

"Green tape" is just a false contrivance developed by the current government to push it's agenda and to campaign its way into office. It's a state issue unless it is EPBC Act 1999 relivent which covers habitats of national significance in relation to our international law obligations. The EPBC Act accomodates bilateral agreements between the the States and Territories nullifying duplication of the environmental assessment process. All that remains with the Commonwealth is the final approval.

The EPBC act is quite the friend of this Federal Government because it is somewhat flawed in it's purpose to safeguard the environment.
 

Runner

Nev Cottrell (35)
You are missing the point Runner. The government acted upon the High Courts decision over Mabo and took the tougher and just route of reinforcing the decision into legislation rather than the next government legislating away the High Courts Wik decision. Prime Minister at the time is a renowned anglophile but that is beside the point.

Red tape is just rhetoric for regulation but regulation is hardly just there for the sake of having regulation although I respect that some may want to debate the merit of that statement.

"Green tape" is just a false contrivance developed by the current government to push it's agenda and to campaign its way into office. It's a state issue unless it is EPBC Act 1999 relivent which covers habitats of national significance in relation to our international law obligations. The EPBC Act accomodates bilateral agreements between the the States and Territories nullifying duplication of the environmental assessment process. All that remains with the Commonwealth is the final approval.

The EPBC act is quite the friend of this Federal Government because it is somewhat flawed in it's purpose to safeguard the environment.


We can disagree on what the course they took.

Green tape will be part of heads of gov't review along with tax. There are a few areas of overlap as you point out but to get a federal law over all state laws would assist in consistancy and effect Clive and his like.

Regulation can be there just because time has passed and no one has updated it. I remember that the law reform commission recommends changes all the time tio bring laws up to date and scrap others. In NSW before the gov't changed reg's a corner shop required 114 licenses and regulations to obey e.g. tobbaco, milk, etc.

Look at the rules around business and see whay it costs more here than in most places to run businesses.

That is before you even look at the work practices laws here.
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
A comment I heard on ABC Insiders last night as one of the journo's last words basically went something like this:

People have questioned how such a small military contribution can make a difference against IS in Iraq. The government says its because we need to step in now before it spreads - better to commit small and stamp it out before it grows.

Yet the same government claims that our contribution to the environment via green initiatives is so small that it makes no difference.

Not saying its accurate, but its an interesting way of thinking, depending on how you define a useful contribution.
 

Bullrush

John Hipwell (52)
Would that include all the unfunded items in their last budget, bring back the carbon tax etc. Oh! Those cost them office. They have presented nothing as an alternative as I have already said.

Who cares what they present?! It's not as if the LNP would actually listen or do any of their alternative actions. I'm pretty sure one of the first things the ALP came out with as an alternative was scraping the PPL. How has that been received by Abbott?? Your calls for them to produce alternatives are an excuse for this government's dishonesty and ineptitude in how they are trying to sell this terrible budget.


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boyo

Mark Ella (57)
A comment I heard on ABC Insiders last night as one of the journo's last words basically went something like this:

People have questioned how such a small military contribution can make a difference against IS in Iraq. The government says its because we need to step in now before it spreads - better to commit small and stamp it out before it grows.

Yet the same government claims that our contribution to the environment via green initiatives is so small that it makes no difference.

Not saying its accurate, but its an interesting way of thinking, depending on how you define a useful contribution.


Indeed.

It may be convenient for war/humanitarian combat missions, but is inconvenient for climate change, etc.
 

redstragic

Alan Cameron (40)
If Abbott shirtfronts Putin and Putin in return sambos Abbott;

1, who would win?
2, would we be at mission with Russia?

I am personally picking Putin will just travel with some mad hungry pet bears. Abbott will have to break out the Crocs. Who would win that fight?
 

Runner

Nev Cottrell (35)
Who cares what they present?! It's not as if the LNP would actually listen or do any of their alternative actions. I'm pretty sure one of the first things the ALP came out with as an alternative was scraping the PPL. How has that been received by Abbott?? Your calls for them to produce alternatives are an excuse for this government's dishonesty and ineptitude in how they are trying to sell this terrible budget.


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PPL is not part of the budget and not funded from it.

ALP left the budget in it's present state and is doing all it can to maintain the mess and prevent a clean up. Now that is being dishonest and inept. Something they will pay for when it does become a bigger issue.
 
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