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Billy Sheehan (19)
He would be a front runner for the rebels gig
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Wallabies v All Blacks, Saturday 19th August, ANZ Stadium Sydney
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Scrubber2050
Mark Ella (57)
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Don't know about that. In fact I would say we were lucky to score what we did. You cannot tell me that most of our tries were well constructed, more "lucky" IMO
Don't know about that. In fact I would say we were lucky to score what we did. You cannot tell me that most of our tries were well constructed, more "lucky" IMO
Killer
Cyril Towers (30)
he would probably be the front runner for any club job in the world and a lot of intl positions for that matter.
Why would he go to the Rebs, highly unlikely imo
chasmac
Dave Cowper (27)
Yes he was good.
Hope Australia don't lose him.
Also, Is Laurie Fischer locked in at the Brumbies?
QLD, NSW and Rebels all need better coaches.
Our defense started to get it together, our attack started to make in roads and we started to be able to build pressure
They converted pressure, if that is "luck", well fine
Cron is sitting on Gibson's shoulder, if he doesn't start well his replacement is there
Scrubber2050
Mark Ella (57)
The AB's were rooted after scoring a record number of points
The AB's became complacent and who wouldn't.
KB (Kurtley Beale)'s try was opportunistic, Folau's was similar (personally I thought Israel was offside)
I cannot believe anyone would be justifying the level of our performance other than being disgraceful, when taking the above into consideration.
what can I tell you, there were utterly horrible for the majority of the first half, they got better
Derpus
George Gregan (70)
Young bloke with lots of potential thrown in the deep end well before he's ready to the disappointment of all. Sounds familiar.
Killer
Cyril Towers (30)
yes it wouldn't work in this current ARU dysfunctional Administration scenario but with a ceo and a board with integrity and rugby smarts I could see it working.
A mutterer
Chilla Wilson (44)
imo i think the real issue is with the coaching and the lack of evolution.
grey's system worked in 14, and then in 15. it hasnt evolved for 2 years and people have definitely got a copy of his playbook. think lots of squiggly lines and arrows all over the place.
same with cheika. we've not seen any evolution in our game. the only real change in how we play the game is the continual change in cattle. and change in positions. etc etc.
there's no point looking for the silver lining - the coaching team do not own their own failures. they spend too much time saying "but" rather than admitting to mistakes, learning from them, and changing to rectify/prevent the same occurring in the future. i think we will be on the receiving end of a hiding in NZ because of this.
grey's system worked in 14, and then in 15. it hasnt evolved for 2 years and people have definitely got a copy of his playbook. think lots of squiggly lines and arrows all over the place.
same with cheika. we've not seen any evolution in our game. the only real change in how we play the game is the continual change in cattle. and change in positions. etc etc.
there's no point looking for the silver lining - the coaching team do not own their own failures. they spend too much time saying "but" rather than admitting to mistakes, learning from them, and changing to rectify/prevent the same occurring in the future. i think we will be on the receiving end of a hiding in NZ because of this.
The second half comeback was important.
Whether it was AB complacency or Wallaby skill is more or less irrelevant, but I was at the game and was pretty surprised at how buoyant the crowd was in those last 15 minutes. They were waiting for the team to give them something, anything to cheer for and finally got it.
It could have been 70-80 points, an all-time embarrassment. As it ended, it was just 'more of the same shit' in the eyes of most fans.
Am I clutching at straws? Yes. Was it still a fucking shambles? Of course. But we all need to sleep at night.
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Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
Yep seem to, the numbers playing soccer in NZ dwarfs the numbers playing rugby, and a lot of the secondary schools in smaller areas nowaday struggle to field 1st 15 teams, they have lower grade teams and quite a number seem to play league, it a fallacy that rugby is only sport played in NZ, and often used as an excuse for AB's dominance. The only sport that not played by kids is AFL that Aussie have.
Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
Funny I said same thing to brother in law Barb, that the Wallabies coming back was good for everyone, the crowd could perhaps think they weren't that bad, the ABs have something to work on etc etc. I think perhaps it could be a little smoke and mirrors type stuff, but something for everyone to take out of it.
upthereds#!
Peter Johnson (47)
Derpus
George Gregan (70)
It makes you wonder why the All Blacks are so damn good and NZ are generally a bit shite at everything else (cricket team has been good last few years, granted).
upthereds#!
Peter Johnson (47)
Matt Taylor (Scotland defence/ ex Reds defence 2011) was an applicant for the Reds job but missed out.
If Wessels doesn't stick around - ARU and VRU should be throwing everything at Taylor, who then is on path to be Wallabies Defence after WC, (if not before). Annointing Larkham so early has really shut down the chances on bringing back quality coaches as it shitcans the pathway, but if they make it public that the best person for the job will get it and the assistant positions, then this may be enough to sway quality guys. Also - IMO Bakarat is a KEY signing for Rebels as forwards coach.
If Wessels doesn't stick around - ARU and VRU should be throwing everything at Taylor, who then is on path to be Wallabies Defence after WC, (if not before). Annointing Larkham so early has really shut down the chances on bringing back quality coaches as it shitcans the pathway, but if they make it public that the best person for the job will get it and the assistant positions, then this may be enough to sway quality guys. Also - IMO Bakarat is a KEY signing for Rebels as forwards coach.
The torpedo
Peter Fenwicke (45)
Which numpty/ies in the QRU decided not to hire him?
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
Won't be popular but I think Larkham done quite well with cattle both at brumbies and wallabies level. As last time I checked he is not wallabies defence coach! I think larkham personally not given enough credit as a coach on here.
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Michael Lynagh (62)
Yep and let Cron serve his apprenticeship before throwing him to the wolves when he does do miracles!
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