2013 IRB Junior World Championship - France

[Honest John]

Tonight - 1800 French time

 

[Braveheart81]

When is this game ?

It's tonight at about 2am AEST time. Foxsports seems to be showing the semi-finals though (Wales vs SAF is on at 2am followed by NZ vs ENG) so this game might not be broadcast at all.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

^^^ Brilliant move by Foxtel.

Mind you there is apparently upwards of 20000 B&I Lions supporters in Australia ATM. These will probably still be debriefing tonight's game against the Ponies long after Sir blows the Acme Thunderer for the last time. There could be some demand from them to see the game WAL and ENG games, if they can still stand up that is.

 

[Dai bando]

Wales beat SA, England beat NZ, a NH final

 

[Bruce Ross]

Wales beat SA, England beat NZ, a NH final

Bloody marvellous, isn't it? Neither of the two teams that beat us in the Pool rounds made it to the Final, then we get beaten by Argen-bloody-tina. So now we get to play off to see if we can improve one place on last year's 8th position.

Let there be no unseemly panic. Australian Rugby is sleeping peacefully with a "Do not disturb" sign on the door.
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[kiap]

Neither of the two teams that beat us in the Pool rounds made it to the Final, then we get beaten by Argen-bloody-tina.

Yip. Should be no surprises though, Bruce. The Argies have put a lot into their developing program and really stepped it up. It's not only the 6N who are overtaking us at this level and some here commented on it at the start of the tournament. The contrast with our preparation is stark.

 

[Zander]

6N has a u20s tournament, TRC does not. Go figure.

 

[Iluvmyfooty]

I definitely think preparation is a problem. We lost by 4 points, 4 points and 7points. Maybe more game time will see us being able to win these close games

 

[tranquility]

We need to have a Junior Rugby Championship starting from next year, or we shouldn't bother participating.

Lack of funds in not an excuse, we are wasting more money by continually going over and getting beaten to a pulp.

 

[Rassie]

Bulls have fckd up Pollard big time throwing huge money at the lightie to join HM’s bullshit baffling brains Boks first choice nursery and then playing him out of position while feeling his ego profusely, showing again how they take good solid cape bred talents and mess them up with all this glory hallelujah biblical extension big bok bravado bullshit stories,

I can smell another Hitler reacts coming on. In fact I will get right on it

Congrats to Wales and England. Deserved winners. Even if they did not score that last try we did not deserve to get anything out of this tournament. Most pathetic looking forward pack I have ever see from any SA forward pack and I included packs of Hoerskool Ganspan en HTS Pusonderwater who would trounced this lot.

 

[en_force_er]

Picture this as an U20 Tournament for us and NZ to warm up for the U20 world cup:

One week and 8 teams all in one location (probably in the Pacific Islands?).

Teams:
NZ U20 and NZ U20a
Aus U20 and Aus U20a
4 invitational sides (including the host nation) selected from Japan, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga, and South Africa is they can be fucked flying out.

2 Pools of 4. You play Monday, Wednesday, Friday, with finals (1v2 etc) on Sunday.

The two teams from Aus and NZ would ensure we're not picking our WC squad on a hunch (currently they are selected based on camps) and would provide a good, cheap warm up.

 

[Zander]

Japan would be a no contest. 100+ scores. PNG would go better.

 

[JSRF10]

4 games of rugby in a week? Not sure that is a good idea even if they are Kids! A RC tournament over two weeks rotated each year between the 4 countries is the most logical idea. I'm sure the IRB would help with the costs, which could be kept down (as others have said) by staying in hostels, availing of other rugby clubs hospitality etc

 

[Iluvmyfooty]

Just pick a 20's team and a 20's A team and let them play in the Pacific Nations Cup like the Academies did this year. just means the team is picked in January

 

[en_force_er]

Just pick a 20's team and a 20's A team and let them play in the Pacific Nations Cup like the Academies did this year. just means the team is picked in January

On the surface ideas like this can seem workable but I think it'd be tough.

These players are based all over the nation. It'd be costly and difficult for them to get together constantly (not all are full professionals).

 

[Braveheart81]

Most of the problem is that the actual team don't get to play warm up games together.

They all play plenty of rugby in the lead up to the squad being selected.

Organising matches against NZ U20 in May seems like the easiest option.

 

[kiap]

4 games of rugby in a week? Not sure that is a good idea even if they are Kids! A RC tournament over two weeks rotated each year between the 4 countries is the most logical idea. I'm sure the IRB would help with the costs, which could be kept down (as others have said) by staying in hostels, availing of other rugby clubs hospitality etc

Not a bad way to go. Maybe some PI/ANZ matchups in the leadup as well.

SANZAR + UAR started the colts tournaments in 1995 that evolved into the JWC (one week, 3 games back then).

 

[I like to watch]

Most of the problem is that the actual team don't get to play warm up games together.

They all play plenty of rugby in the lead up to the squad being selected.

Organising matches against NZ U20 in May seems like the easiest option.

That is so obvious a solution, it must have been raised and rejected by the Kiwi's, surely?

 

[Braveheart81]

That is so obvious a solution, it must have been raised and rejected by the Kiwi's, surely?

For the first time in possibly forever, New Zealand didn't make the final, so if there was ever a time to ask, it would be tomorrow!

 

[I like to watch]

Dunno,
When they were a force in Rugby, it would have been a great prep.
Now that they are also rans,could we be bothered to play them?
(For the sake of my argument,let's ignore what happened in the pool game)