April Wallaby 30 Man Squad
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Tony Shaw (54)
Barb - perhaps a tad selective above? 2010 was, for example, the year of, again, no BC, and the year v England of 2 losses out of 3 Tests played. Were we summarily so 'tearing it up in the backs' that year?
qwerty51
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Conceding 4-5 due to a playmaker at 12 and a backline who weren't making dominant tackles.
Oh yeah but talking purely in terms of Robbie's ability to get a backline going in attack. He can do it, he has done it in the past.
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Groucho
Greg Davis (50)
The Crusaders weren't shabby. The argument that "he had better cattle there" is hopefully wrong by now.
Oh yes it is very selective, no doubt. But if you were to line up backline 'highlights' of the last 10 years, a lot of 2010 moments would rate highly. There is a youtube video around that we did. QC (Quade Cooper) throwing long, flat balls to Mitchell, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) and co. Some ripper tries. In attack the backline was functioning well, for that short period. So that shows Robbie IS capable of getting something out of these guys in attack. A small period of (somewhat) success, but a period nonetheless.
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USARugger
John Thornett (49)
barbarian
2010 was brilliantly entertaining to watch but in terms of the larger picture of 2008-2013 I believe it was a bit of an anomaly and we'll have to see if the numbers support that notion or not.
Gonna draw up the tries for:year stats later after classes are done for the day but I did find this when I was looking for the 2008 Wallabies coaching staff. I find it equally hilarious and infuriating.
"John O’Neill was asked what targets the new coach faced. “Our win-loss ratio of 60 per cent is not acceptable. We’ll be happy with 75 per to 80 per cent, that usually brings in the silverware. What Robbie brings to the Wallabies are values and a team culture. So there’s the quantitative aspect with wins and losses, and the qualitative aspect to go with it."
http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/06/03/2008-wallabies-good-talent-extraordinary-coach/
Fuck us, right?
(For anyone not getting it, Dingo currently sits on a W% of 59.2% at 42/27/2 since 2008..yup. To put this in perspective it is lower than PDV's record with the Boks)
2010 was brilliantly entertaining to watch but in terms of the larger picture of 2008-2013 I believe it was a bit of an anomaly and we'll have to see if the numbers support that notion or not.
Gonna draw up the tries for:year stats later after classes are done for the day but I did find this when I was looking for the 2008 Wallabies coaching staff. I find it equally hilarious and infuriating.
"John O’Neill was asked what targets the new coach faced. “Our win-loss ratio of 60 per cent is not acceptable. We’ll be happy with 75 per to 80 per cent, that usually brings in the silverware. What Robbie brings to the Wallabies are values and a team culture. So there’s the quantitative aspect with wins and losses, and the qualitative aspect to go with it."
http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/06/03/2008-wallabies-good-talent-extraordinary-coach/
Fuck us, right?
(For anyone not getting it, Dingo currently sits on a W% of 59.2% at 42/27/2 since 2008..yup. To put this in perspective it is lower than PDV's record with the Boks)
USARugger
John Thornett (49)
The numbers have spoken.
2008
In 2008 the Wallabies average 2.36 tries per match, at the tune of 33 tries across 14 tests. Nations played were as follows: Ireland, France (3x), South Africa (3x), New Zealand (4x), Italy, England, Wales. This year Scott Johnson was removed as Attack Coach and was not directly replaced. In fact, Deans assumed the former role of Johnson as well as that of John Muggleton, the former specialist defense coach.
2009
In 2009 the Wallabies average 2.07 tries per match, to the tune of 29 tries across 14 tests. Nations played were as follows: Italy (2x), France, New Zealand (4x), South Africa (3x), England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales. Funny enough, G&GR's own Bob Dwyer attacked both the new 'Skills Coach' Richard Graham (as well as Jim Williams) in this little piece written by Tom Wald of The Roar. In fact, at the time Dwyer chose to believe that the assistant coaches, not Deans, were to blame in particular: "I can’t believe that Robbie Deans is not a good coach but equally I can’t believe that his coaching staff are doing the job,”. For parity Dywer also pointed the finger at the selectors, a point which should resonate well with the posters here. Funny how things haven't changed much in that department, huh? That's another post for another day though. Time to get back on track.
2010
In 2010 the Wallabies average 4.47 tries per match, to the tune of 67 tries over 15 tests. When adjusted to omit games against second-tier nations (Fiji) this figure shifts to 4.28 tries/match or 60 tries over 14 tests. Nations played were as follows: Fiji, England (3x), Ireland, South Africa (3x), New Zealand (4x), Wales, Italy, France. Very impressive stuff, directly coinciding with the appointment and standing of Richard Graham as 'Skills Coach'. Graham left the Wallabies before the Hong Kong match with the All Blacks and the EOYT to prepare with the Western Force for their upcoming Super Rugby season as their new Head Coach.
2011
In 2011 the Wallabies averaged 3.38 tries per match, to the tune of 44 tries over 13 matches. When adjusted to omit games against second and thier-tier competition (USA/Russia pool stage games at the 2011 RWC) this figure shifts to 2.3 tries/match. Nations played were as follows: Samoa, South Africa (3x), New Zealand (3x), Italy, Ireland, USA, Russia, Wales (2x). No replacement for Graham was on the radar at this point, even though we were scoring half as many tries as we were with him on staff.
2012
In 2012 the Wallabies average 1 try per match, to the tune of 15 tries over 15 tests. Nations played were as follows: Scotland, Wales (x4), New Zealand (x3), South Africa (x2), Argentina (x2), France, England, Italy. No specialist Attack/Backs coach had been installed up to this point. Nick Scrivener had been brought on as an Assistant Coach but his highest qualifications in any Backs/Attack specialist positions was in an assistant role for Australia-A and the U-21 sides.
..And they say Deans is not a suitable Backs/Attack coach for the Wallabies at the test match level. The only years where the Wallabies' tries scored:match ratio exceeded 2.5 was under the direction of Graham as a specialist Skills/Attack/Backs/ExecuteTheGoddamnFirstPhaseMovements coach. Funny enough some of the posters here, namely qwerty51, like to point out how this high-point in scoring also coincided with a low-point in our tries scored against:matches played ratio. Well, I assure you when you calm your romantic fantasies over certain QLD play-makers you will notice how this period also directly coincided with Robbie Deans' self-appointment as our Defense Coach following the removal of John Muggleton. Funny enough how our defense also dramatically improved to be the strongest in the 2011 RWC under the appointment of Phil Blake as a specialist Defense coach.
2008
In 2008 the Wallabies average 2.36 tries per match, at the tune of 33 tries across 14 tests. Nations played were as follows: Ireland, France (3x), South Africa (3x), New Zealand (4x), Italy, England, Wales. This year Scott Johnson was removed as Attack Coach and was not directly replaced. In fact, Deans assumed the former role of Johnson as well as that of John Muggleton, the former specialist defense coach.
2009
In 2009 the Wallabies average 2.07 tries per match, to the tune of 29 tries across 14 tests. Nations played were as follows: Italy (2x), France, New Zealand (4x), South Africa (3x), England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales. Funny enough, G&GR's own Bob Dwyer attacked both the new 'Skills Coach' Richard Graham (as well as Jim Williams) in this little piece written by Tom Wald of The Roar. In fact, at the time Dwyer chose to believe that the assistant coaches, not Deans, were to blame in particular: "I can’t believe that Robbie Deans is not a good coach but equally I can’t believe that his coaching staff are doing the job,”. For parity Dywer also pointed the finger at the selectors, a point which should resonate well with the posters here. Funny how things haven't changed much in that department, huh? That's another post for another day though. Time to get back on track.
2010
In 2010 the Wallabies average 4.47 tries per match, to the tune of 67 tries over 15 tests. When adjusted to omit games against second-tier nations (Fiji) this figure shifts to 4.28 tries/match or 60 tries over 14 tests. Nations played were as follows: Fiji, England (3x), Ireland, South Africa (3x), New Zealand (4x), Wales, Italy, France. Very impressive stuff, directly coinciding with the appointment and standing of Richard Graham as 'Skills Coach'. Graham left the Wallabies before the Hong Kong match with the All Blacks and the EOYT to prepare with the Western Force for their upcoming Super Rugby season as their new Head Coach.
2011
In 2011 the Wallabies averaged 3.38 tries per match, to the tune of 44 tries over 13 matches. When adjusted to omit games against second and thier-tier competition (USA/Russia pool stage games at the 2011 RWC) this figure shifts to 2.3 tries/match. Nations played were as follows: Samoa, South Africa (3x), New Zealand (3x), Italy, Ireland, USA, Russia, Wales (2x). No replacement for Graham was on the radar at this point, even though we were scoring half as many tries as we were with him on staff.
2012
In 2012 the Wallabies average 1 try per match, to the tune of 15 tries over 15 tests. Nations played were as follows: Scotland, Wales (x4), New Zealand (x3), South Africa (x2), Argentina (x2), France, England, Italy. No specialist Attack/Backs coach had been installed up to this point. Nick Scrivener had been brought on as an Assistant Coach but his highest qualifications in any Backs/Attack specialist positions was in an assistant role for Australia-A and the U-21 sides.
..And they say Deans is not a suitable Backs/Attack coach for the Wallabies at the test match level. The only years where the Wallabies' tries scored:match ratio exceeded 2.5 was under the direction of Graham as a specialist Skills/Attack/Backs/ExecuteTheGoddamnFirstPhaseMovements coach. Funny enough some of the posters here, namely qwerty51, like to point out how this high-point in scoring also coincided with a low-point in our tries scored against:matches played ratio. Well, I assure you when you calm your romantic fantasies over certain QLD play-makers you will notice how this period also directly coincided with Robbie Deans' self-appointment as our Defense Coach following the removal of John Muggleton. Funny enough how our defense also dramatically improved to be the strongest in the 2011 RWC under the appointment of Phil Blake as a specialist Defense coach.
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