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Election 2010

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Scotty

David Codey (61)
http://www.businessspectator.com.au...-bosses-pd20100817-8DSP4?OpenDocument&src=kgb

Interesting Kohler article on how much support Abbott has compared to Gillard by company CEOs. I guess it isn't surprising, that they should support the Coalition 'free market' party more, but it is surprising by how much:

Julia Gillard has failed to win over Australia’s chief executives; in fact her “preferred Prime Minister” rating is roughly the reverse of the electorate as a whole.

Twenty-six per cent of CEOs surveyed think Gillard would make a better PM, compared with 52 per cent for Tony Abbott. The latest Newspoll in The Australian yesterday has them 50 and 35 per cent, the other way around.

And if there is one single issue that causes the bosses to support Abbott over Gillard, it is HR.

The CEOs support Coalition policy over ALP policy on every topic, but especially industrial relations (73 per cent versus 21 per cent), and overwhelmingly the issue that keeps CEOs awake at night, as it has been all year, is “being able to source skilled staff”.

While every other issue that we ask the CEOs about has chopped and changed this year as the most likely thing to keep them awake at night, staffing has steadily increased in importance – from 48 per cent in the first quarter to 55 per cent this month.
 

Aussie D

Dick Tooth (41)
Agree that it will be close but I think the coalition will sneak over the line thanks to WA and Queensland (mining tax) and NSW (state labour). Willl be glad to see the back of this government as they have totally underwhelmed in their time in office. Think their only success stories were My School and overturning Work Choices (but did they go too far?)
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
Thats it for me for election and political commentary. Unfortunately I won't be in the country for the election, so sent my postal vote off today.

But don't feel to sorry for me I'm off for a wedding and holiday on a Greek island.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
You poor wee flower Scotty, how ever will you cope? :)

With the state of the Greek economy, you could probably afford to buy the island you'll be staying on too!
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
I don't know. It will be a struggle.

I'll go and see how a country fairs that believes in 'big government', and hope we don't follow the same route.
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
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Thats it for me for election and political commentary. Unfortunately I won't be in the country for the election, so sent my postal vote off today.

But don't feel to sorry for me I'm off for a wedding and holiday on a Greek island.
I'm sure Joolya will appreciate you going to the effort to send in her vote
 

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
Abbott didn't fare to well on the 7:30 report tonight. It would of been compasionate for one of his campaign staffers to throw in the towel to end the fight.

I could never trust him to be PM.
 

Bowside

Peter Johnson (47)

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
The interesting thing is that big business isn't always a friend of the conservative parties. They will conveniently jump into bed with whichever party dishes out the right amount of corporate welfare or erects barriers to entry high enough for them to preserve their place in the market.
 

TheRiddler

Dave Cowper (27)
I voted yesterday at Australia House in London. Great little setup and was surprised to see a load of volunteers from all the major parties handing out their "how to vote" pamphlets.

84 names on the Senate paper this time around. Getting quite ridiculous. Was tough to work out who to put in last place between Fred Nile's mob, One Nation and the Shooters and Fishing party.
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
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I voted yesterday at Australia House in London. Great little setup and was surprised to see a load of volunteers from all the major parties handing out their "how to vote" pamphlets.

84 names on the Senate paper this time around. Getting quite ridiculous. Was tough to work out who to put in last place between Fred Nile's mob, One Nation and the Shooters and Fishing party.

What's wrong with the Fishing party? Come to think of it I tend to agree with the Shooters before the Greens most of the time...
 

TheRiddler

Dave Cowper (27)
What's wrong with the Fishing party? Come to think of it I tend to agree with the Shooters before the Greens most of the time...

Any person that gets pleasure from shooting animals just for the fun of it has some very serious issues. And to think that mob could hold the balance of power in the NSW Senate.

The Australian Sex Party on the other hand......
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
You could have Shooters and Rooters on the same ballot paper.

I actually took the time to read the Sex party's policy positions (ooo errr missus). Many of them are actually good common sense.
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
Malcolm, we miss you.

Not even Conroy was able to offer any concrete examples during the BB debate, that's how unprepared they are. His saving grace was that the coalition bloke had even less of a clue. It was embarrassing.

Go and google "national broadband network benefits". You will find very little of anyone in government actually listing much more than the doctor in the sticks consulting a specialist example (I want to know what this situation does to legal liability insurance - it's a hornets nest).

God knows my business will use bandwidth. I'll take anything you can offer and I actually don't care what it costs. Very, very few businesses can actually use the speeds they so liberally quote.

People's apathy has astounded me during this election. Gillard never answers a question straight. Ever. She is a bullshitter of the highest order and at the moment a marginal number of Australians too many are too fucking stupid to see it (or they are hoping for another handout.) In last night's People's Forum and especially in today's Press Club address she laid on slabs of rethoric with no real answers that were relevant to questions asked. She even became condescending and aggressive when asked questions she did not like. She is a political animal of note with less than two years of front bench experience and people trust her to run a country? Come on man.

When the whole thing started I found myself in a real quandry as I didn't like either of them. At least Abbot seems genuine and is man enough to be honest when he has no answer. Gillard will go off on some baloney tangent and end up slating Abbot to detract from he own lack of knowledge or substance on an issue.

But if the coalition goes down it will largely to their own making. The costings debacle has been their single biggest downfall.

From the polls it looks like I will be in the market for an anti Gillard filter for three years. The ones that flick the channel as soon as it picks up the monotone Joolyaaa drone.
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
What's wrong with the Fishing party? Come to think of it I tend to agree with the Shooters before the Greens most of the time...

Fishing, shooting and fucking. What is the world coming to?

Do people actually vote for them? I can't remember the results in the last election.
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
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The Sex Party could actually do alright this time, Fiona Patten seems quite decent and makes a lot of sense a lot of the time. She was an early vocal opponent of Conroy's censorship plans.
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
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Not even Conroy was able to offer any concrete examples during the BB debate, that's how unprepared they are. His saving grace was that the coalition bloke had even less of a clue. It was embarrassing.

Go and google "national broadband network benefits". You will find very little of anyone in government actually listing much more than the doctor in the sticks consulting a specialist example (I want to know what this situation does to legal liability insurance - it's a hornets nest).

God knows my business will use bandwidth. I'll take anything you can offer and I actually don't care what it costs. Very, very few businesses can actually use the speeds they so liberally quote.

People's apathy has astounded me during this election. Gillard never answers a question straight. Ever. She is a bullshitter of the highest order and at the moment a marginal number of Australians too many are too fucking stupid to see it (or they are hoping for another handout.) In last night's People's Forum and especially in today's Press Club address she laid on slabs of rethoric with no real answers that were relevant to questions asked. She even became condescending and aggressive when asked questions she did not like. She is a political animal of note with less than two years of front bench experience and people trust her to run a country? Come on man.

When the whole thing started I found myself in a real quandry as I didn't like either of them. At least Abbot seems genuine and is man enough to be honest when he has no answer. Gillard will go off on some baloney tangent and end up slating Abbot to detract from he own lack of knowledge or substance on an issue.

But if the coalition goes down it will largely to their own making. The costings debacle has been their single biggest downfall.

From the polls it looks like I will be in the market for an anti Gillard filter for three years. The ones that flick the channel as soon as it picks up the monotone Joolyaaa drone.
Brilliantly said Blue,
You've articulated a heap of points that I've either thought or already made.

Joolya shits me to tears, never answers a question and when she does her answers contradict themselves. The chick on the townhall last night asked her if she feels like a hypocrite for saying Labor had lost it's way, but found it again by keeping 3 of the 4 in the leadership group and applauding the work done by the fourth. You can't have it both ways.

Meanwhile the coalition have gone bonkers, but I'll still vote for them cause there is a lack of viable alternatives. Stopping the boats is such a non-issue, but it won them the 2003 election so they'll bring it out again. Paid maternity leave up to 150k is a strange one, as is their built in assumption that women earn less than men. Taxing big business to pay for maternity leave doesn't really add up either, seems to go against the Liberal ethos.

Tony Smith, the wonky eyed goose the Libs put in charge of technology is a first rate plonker. Malcolm would have eaten Conroy alive on Lateline last night given half the chance. Such a wasted opportunity. People seem to forget the only reason Labor want to speed up the Internet is so they can filter it.

Like you, I'll take fibre to my home, in fact I'll get very excited that the government is buying me a new toy. Assuming, and it's a massive assumption, they can build it before running out of money. Like you, I'm prepared to pay for bandwidth, I'm actually looking forward to hosting G&GR from home on some decent farking hardware. That is, if they let you run a server on your gigabit connection, take nothing for granted.

I currently have 12Mb/s and it's perfectly capable of skype video. We regularly do this to South Africa, where they'd be lucky to have 4Mb/s. Great point on medical liability, what Doctor is going to want to dispense advice that the patient can record for a future court case?
 
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