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Julia's Reign

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Peter Sullivan (51)
I'd also like to hog the soapbox for another thought; I really dislike Gillard because during the election campaign, everytime I turned on the telly she was on promising money left right and centre. I'm not criticizing where the money was going, but rather that fact that it wasn't as much an election but an auction, with Labour and the Lib's in a bidding war. And the worst part is there's no accountability, so both parties couldnt be fucked when it comes time to actually deliver the promised money.

Gripe over.
 
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Mark Ella (57)
Limit the extent of preferential voting to only three preferences. I feel for you blokes down south that get a ballot paper that is ridiculously long. We all basically know who we want, who we don't want and then you get all the shit in between that you have never heard of and have no idea what they stand for. The system is flawed in that you have to prioritise them. It also creates dis interest in the process and leads to rushed voting with little thought considered.

A big sign at the polling booth that says "think about your vote or don't fill out the ballot paper" would not hurt. I would rather an informal vote not counting rather than an illconcieved vote making a difference.
 
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John Thornett (49)
Or a higher threshold for appearing on a House ballot. Five hundred or a thousand signatures from registered voters in that electorate.
 
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Andrew Slack (58)
Isn't the real issue that we are stuck in this two party system so unless we have an outright majority we are perpetually going to get stuck in this "it's red, not it's green, no it's red. Oh shit okay lets move on we can't agree" thing.

Countries like Denmark have a multi party system that actually works because there are always various viewpoints but they inevitably break a deadlock. Perhaps a bit of a superficial comparison but the system we have seem designed for obstruction and if abused, gridlock.

The opposition is there to keep the government accountable but it loses sight of that because at the moment all Abbot wants to do is fuck Labor over at every turn (which incidentally I also think will be his downfall because nobody likes a whingepot and after a couple of years of all this going on, that is what he will resemble).

When I watch these people whose salaries we pay sitting around bickering all fucking day long I can't help but think there must be a better way.
 
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John Thornett (49)
Canada has a similar Parliamentary system (although their Senate is not elected and less important) to ours but has four parties (Conservative and Liberal are the two big ones, then there is the Bloc Quebecois and the lefty New Democratic Party). They've gone through nearly a decade of minority governments which should, theoretically, have resulted in more cooperation but tends to lead to as much bitching and moaning as we get here.
 
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Peter Johnson (47)
Scotty said:
This is possible. However it says a lot about Labor voters and how Labor attracts them. (The more apathetic you are, the more you are likely to vote for Labor? Does this mean people only vote for them when they are too lazy to really look at their policies?) :)
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I dont neccissarily think so. You can say the same thing for the Liberals with their throw away lines like "great big tax" and "stop the boats", which are just designed to play on peoples fears and predjudices.

I like the preference system, because realistically if my first chioce doesnt win, then best of luck to my second choice. It allows for people to have protest votes whereby they vote for a fringe party like the greens, as a way of telling the majors they need to pay more attention to a particular area, but at the end of the day they still have a meaningful vote due to their preferences.

If you take that away you run the risk having a situation whereby a vote for a minor party ammounts to throwing your vote away.
 
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David Codey (61)
I hate the 'stop the boats' line. It was the worst thing about the recent coalition campaign.

PS the post of mine you quoted was mostly tongue in cheek.
 
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David Codey (61)
Latest polls out show that Labor's primary vote is now 33%.

So, that means this country is being led by a party that only 1 in 3 people would vote for.
 
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John Thornett (49)
Fortunately we don't have a system in which governments get tossed based on tracking polls.
 
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John Thornett (49)
I know, I was more trying to point out that polls are polls and don't mean that much until either there's an election or a bunch of witless backroom hacks depose the leader on the back of them.
 
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David Codey (61)
Anyone see this? Garrett has referred to their own clean car scheme as 'cash for clunkers'!

http://www.smh.com.au/national/garr...-those-banned-three-words-20101028-174fz.html

So let me get this right. The Labor party want tax payers to pay for owners of pre 95 cars to sell these same cars and buy more efficient versions. I may be lucky enough under this government, to pay taxes to help others upgrade their cars, despite the fact that I already own a less than 5 year old efficient car.

This seems to be another example of how the Labor party would like to take us down the path of socialism.

Wouldn't it be better to have a sliding tax scale on cars, with the most efficient receiving the least taxation, and the least efficient receiving the most? A user pays type of system, rather than a system that actually penalises the people that are doing the right thing?
 
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David Codey (61)
Hard to decide who to believe here (well I'm pretty sure only one has a reason to lie):

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/ber-stimulus-boost-short-lived/story-e6frg6n6-1225950418539

Mr Lenders' comments came as Wayne Swan yesterday declared the BER "99 per cent committed, or completed" and said the government's stimulus spending was "basically tailing out of the system". But only one in five projects had been completed in Victoria as of last month and the state Auditor-General revealed just weeks ago that the Brumby government had pumped only 40 per cent of its $2.5 billion BER funding into the state's economy.

Victoria's concession that federal stimulus funds are now speeding up its school rebuilding program came as the federal Treasury warned Mr Swan that the national economy was reaching full capacity. The mid-year economic update, released yesterday, sounded alarm bells on stronger wages growth and rising inflation over the next two years because of strong domestic demand.
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Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Yea probably. I don't get why taxing carbon is a good solution really. We need to be putting money into research and development of renewable or environmentally safe energy. Not just taxing companies that will pass it onto us.

Anyway, all this fighting over whether equal rights are good or bad should give Labor a long enough distraction to get their crap sorted on this and the NBN. Also Wayne Swan's bank management plan screw up that he plans to release at the end of the month.
 
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