November Internationals not involving Australia
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Micheal
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Imagine the ABs losing two in a row.
It seems they're on a mission to build depth. Perhaps a couple of losses is worth it in the year immediately following the world cup.
Shiggins
Steve Williams (59)
All blacks by 36
If u believe Italy by 7 you could turn 10 bucks. Into 800
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Micheal
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
This weekends international predictions:
Ireland vs Canada*.
England vs South Africa.
Italy vs New Zealand - will be closer than most think.
Australia vs Scotland.
Argentina vs. Wales*.
France vs. Samoa*.
* indicates I have no idea about the line ups. Just going off recent form.
The above is paying $165.05 on Bet365 if you include an Italy win. Might put $1 on it.
Ireland vs Canada*.
England vs South Africa.
Italy vs New Zealand - will be closer than most think.
Australia vs Scotland.
Argentina vs. Wales*.
France vs. Samoa*.
* indicates I have no idea about the line ups. Just going off recent form.
The above is paying $165.05 on Bet365 if you include an Italy win. Might put $1 on it.
I thought you guys started a thread to deal with gambling on rugby matches so we didn't get this in threads?
Shiggins
Steve Williams (59)
Is there? This is the first time I've ever had a bet
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Hawko
Tony Shaw (54)
PaarlBok
Rod McCall (65)
Teams:
England
15 Mike Brown, 14 Marland Yarde, 13 Elliot Daly, 12 Owen Farrell, 11 Jonny May, 10 George Ford, 9 Ben Youngs, 8 Billy Vunipola, 7 Tom Wood, 6 Chris Robshaw, 5 Courtney Lawes, 4 Joe Launchbury, 3 Dan Cole, 2 Dylan Hartley (captain), 1 Mako Vunipola
Substitutes: 16 Jamie George, 17 Joe Marler, 18 Kyle Sinckler, 19 Dave Attwood, 20 Nathan Hughes, 21 Danny Care, 22 Ben Te'o, 23 Jonathan Joseph
South Africa
15 Willie le Roux, 14 Ruan Combrinck, 13 Francois Venter, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 JP Pietersen, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Rudy Paige, 8 Warren Whiteley, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Willem Alberts, 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Vincent Koch, 2 Adriaan Strauss (captain), 1 Tendai Mtawarira
Substitutes: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Lourens Adriaanse, 19, Franco Mostert, 20, Nizaam Carr, 21, Faf de Klerk, 22, Johan Goosen, 23 Lionel Mapoe
England
15 Mike Brown, 14 Marland Yarde, 13 Elliot Daly, 12 Owen Farrell, 11 Jonny May, 10 George Ford, 9 Ben Youngs, 8 Billy Vunipola, 7 Tom Wood, 6 Chris Robshaw, 5 Courtney Lawes, 4 Joe Launchbury, 3 Dan Cole, 2 Dylan Hartley (captain), 1 Mako Vunipola
Substitutes: 16 Jamie George, 17 Joe Marler, 18 Kyle Sinckler, 19 Dave Attwood, 20 Nathan Hughes, 21 Danny Care, 22 Ben Te'o, 23 Jonathan Joseph
South Africa
15 Willie le Roux, 14 Ruan Combrinck, 13 Francois Venter, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 JP Pietersen, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Rudy Paige, 8 Warren Whiteley, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Willem Alberts, 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Vincent Koch, 2 Adriaan Strauss (captain), 1 Tendai Mtawarira
Substitutes: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Lourens Adriaanse, 19, Franco Mostert, 20, Nizaam Carr, 21, Faf de Klerk, 22, Johan Goosen, 23 Lionel Mapoe
Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
Really? Or as Shag says if some of the players don't get a break they will just burn out.
What is this showing respect thing you Aussies getting so hung up about?
Because Kafe has a whinge on a TV show and Chuckles has a moan in the press it seems to be on everyone's mind.But seriously Sully the truth is you can't really roll out the same players every week and expect them to perform, I remember a year or 2 ago where they were saying that Ben from Accounts was losing 5 kg everytime he played at end of year tour and fitness gurus were saying it comes from having burned to many reserves of energy etc. Wouldn't mind betting Chuckles will take a chance to rest some players probably against Scotland. And even Italy are running out and inexperienced halves combo, so they obviously feeling the need to rotate some of their squad.
As an aside was listening to some former test players and fitness people at a luncheon where they reckoned playing a test was almost equal to running a marathon in energy burnt etc, and top marathon runners are never expected to be able to run than more than 2-3 marathons a year and be able to perform at top of their ability. Makes you think how hard it must be for all coaches to try to manage work loads etc.
waiopehu oldboy
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Wales vs Argentina
@ Principality Stadium
Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
Assistant Referees: Mike Fraser (New Zealand), Luke Pearce (England)
TMO: Shaun Davey (England)
Wales: 15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 George North, 13 Jonathan Davies, 12 Scott Williams, 11 Liam Williams, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Gareth Davies, 8 Ross Moriarty, 7 Justin Tipuric, 6 Sam Warburton, 5 Alun Wyn Jones, 4 Luke Charteris, 3 Tomas Francis, 2 Ken Owens, 1 Gethin Jenkins (c) . Replacements: 16 Scott Baldwin, 17 Nicky Smith, 18 Samson Lee, 19 Cory Hill, 20 James King, 21 Lloyd Williams, 22 Gareth Anscombe, 23 Jamie Roberts
Argentina: 15 Joaquín Tuculet, 14 Matías Moroni, 13 Matías Orlando, 12 Juan Martín Hernández, 11 Ramiro Moyano, 10 Nicolás Sánchez, 9 Martín Landajo, 8 Facundo Isa, 7 Javier Ortega Desio, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Matías Alemanno, 4 Guido Petti, 3 Ramiro Herrera, 2 Agustín Creevy (c), 1 Lucas Noguera. Replacements: 16 Julián Montoya, 17 Santiago García Botta, 18 Enrique Pieretto, 19 Leonardo Senatore, 20 Tomás Lezana, 21 Tomás Cubelli, 22 Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias, 23 Santiago Cordero
@ Principality Stadium
Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
Assistant Referees: Mike Fraser (New Zealand), Luke Pearce (England)
TMO: Shaun Davey (England)
Wales: 15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 George North, 13 Jonathan Davies, 12 Scott Williams, 11 Liam Williams, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Gareth Davies, 8 Ross Moriarty, 7 Justin Tipuric, 6 Sam Warburton, 5 Alun Wyn Jones, 4 Luke Charteris, 3 Tomas Francis, 2 Ken Owens, 1 Gethin Jenkins (c) . Replacements: 16 Scott Baldwin, 17 Nicky Smith, 18 Samson Lee, 19 Cory Hill, 20 James King, 21 Lloyd Williams, 22 Gareth Anscombe, 23 Jamie Roberts
Argentina: 15 Joaquín Tuculet, 14 Matías Moroni, 13 Matías Orlando, 12 Juan Martín Hernández, 11 Ramiro Moyano, 10 Nicolás Sánchez, 9 Martín Landajo, 8 Facundo Isa, 7 Javier Ortega Desio, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Matías Alemanno, 4 Guido Petti, 3 Ramiro Herrera, 2 Agustín Creevy (c), 1 Lucas Noguera. Replacements: 16 Julián Montoya, 17 Santiago García Botta, 18 Enrique Pieretto, 19 Leonardo Senatore, 20 Tomás Lezana, 21 Tomás Cubelli, 22 Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias, 23 Santiago Cordero
Dalai Ninja
Ward Prentice (10)
Me. England are favourites but 6.05 is wrong odds.
Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
Wouldn't mind betting Chuckles will take a chance to rest some players probably against Scotland. )
Well shows what I know Chuckles only bought Genia in huh??
BaaBaas team to play Fiji in Belfast.
BARBARIANS TEAM TO FACE FIJI
15 Melani Nanai (Blues)
14 Matt Faddes (Highlanders)
13 Tommy Bowe (Ulster & Ireland)
12 Richard Buckman (Highlanders/Panasonic)
11 Taqele Naiyaravoro (Waratahs/Panasonic & Australia)
10 Robert du Preez (Stormers)
9 Andy Ellis (Crusaders/Kobelco & New Zealand, captain)
1 Reggie Goodes (Hurricanes)
2 Akker van der Merwe (Lions)
3 Ben Franks (London Irish & New Zealand)
4 Michael Fatialofa (Hurricanes)
5 Sam Carter (Brumbies & Australia)
6 Brad Shields (Hurricanes)
7 Jordan Taufua (Crusaders)
8 Luke Whitelock (Highlanders & New Zealand)
Replacements
16 Andrew Ready (Reds)
17 Toby Smith (Rebels & Australia)
18 Paddy Ryan (Waratahs & Australia)
19 Martin Muller (Lions)
20 Ruan Ackermann (Lions)
21 Ruan Pienaar (Ulster & South Africa)
22 Richard Mo’unga (Crusaders)
23 Luke Morahan (Force & Australia)
BARBARIANS TEAM TO FACE FIJI
15 Melani Nanai (Blues)
14 Matt Faddes (Highlanders)
13 Tommy Bowe (Ulster & Ireland)
12 Richard Buckman (Highlanders/Panasonic)
11 Taqele Naiyaravoro (Waratahs/Panasonic & Australia)
10 Robert du Preez (Stormers)
9 Andy Ellis (Crusaders/Kobelco & New Zealand, captain)
1 Reggie Goodes (Hurricanes)
2 Akker van der Merwe (Lions)
3 Ben Franks (London Irish & New Zealand)
4 Michael Fatialofa (Hurricanes)
5 Sam Carter (Brumbies & Australia)
6 Brad Shields (Hurricanes)
7 Jordan Taufua (Crusaders)
8 Luke Whitelock (Highlanders & New Zealand)
Replacements
16 Andrew Ready (Reds)
17 Toby Smith (Rebels & Australia)
18 Paddy Ryan (Waratahs & Australia)
19 Martin Muller (Lions)
20 Ruan Ackermann (Lions)
21 Ruan Pienaar (Ulster & South Africa)
22 Richard Mo’unga (Crusaders)
23 Luke Morahan (Force & Australia)
Hawko
Tony Shaw (54)
Maybe coach is expecting that Warburton will be replaced early as he works his way back from injury
Hawko
Tony Shaw (54)
That is a very strong Barbarians team that are on their third straight match so they will be match hardened and developing good combinations, If they can fix their scrum and lineout deficiencies against a team not notable for these skills they'll murder Fiji.
Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
Koroibeti is in the Wallabies' squad, not the Baa Baas' squad. He may get time off the bench in one or two of the tests (maybe France) but the Aus team to play the French Baa Baas would be the best bet.
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