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NSW Schools - Trial Games and Selections 2013

Discussion in 'Schoolboy Rugby' started by Hugh Jarse, Apr 11, 2013.

  1. JstWaiting4amate Frank Nicholson (4)

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    Your exactly Right, the CAS management always seem to mispell his name every year - Its FAAOPE Junior SATIU.
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  2. Newbie Bill McLean (32)

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    My spellcheck needs a spellcheck! Nevertheless, it does not excuse my 'ABOMINABLE' ignorance!

    My thanks to you and Brian Westlake for pointing that out to me (and everyone else!!!!)
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  3. Newbie Bill McLean (32)

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    This place is just full of comedians!

    Its like that poor old New Zealand farmer, he did a thousand good things during his life and no-one noticed, however the day he had quasi-conjugal relations with one sheep the whole world knew!
  4. Ted S Hunter Peter Burge (5)

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    Brian, it wasn't so much the guys not doing the meat and potatoes, just none of them stood out. Last year you had Mitch Whitley & Jack Dempsey leading from the front, well back row, this year, the leader in the forwards was Crichton, probably followed by Sandell and maybe Hannigan, otherwise the rest very quite. Maybe not seeing them is a sign they were doing their job, but i would have expected them to hold out the CAS forwards a bit better had they been there?

    And Sorry Lee, feel free to pinch any of my stuff if it helps finish your stuff off.

    Also does anyone know if they are likely to make changes (or when they announce if they have) for the Friday games?
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  5. random2 Johnnie Wallace (23)

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    New team lists were just put up on the AAGPS site. Only changes are in 2s with Cooke (E) coming in for the injured Hunt (I) and Hutchinson (I) coming in for Davies (K). Menzies (I) and Prassas (N) come into the 3rds side
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  6. Newbie Bill McLean (32)

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    I for one hope the lad goes that extra step this year. The personal adversity he has faced in recent times would shatter most of us, but he has pulled through! Trinity his school (and those who were instrumental in getting him there - take a bow Mr Clarke) should also be congratulated!.
  7. Lee Grant John Eales (66)

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  8. Brian Westlake Arch Winning (36)

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    Quasi??? Hunchbacked Sheep??? You are getting weirder Newbs. :)
  9. Brian Westlake Arch Winning (36)

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    Funnily enough Ted, you mentioned the men from lat year that came off with clean jerseys. They knew that to shine above the likes of a Michael Gunn that they HAD to be seen. It worked for them , good luck to Dempsey as it got him to the tragically underperforming 20's
  10. Inside Shoulder Nathan Sharpe (72)

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  11. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    Good point, and the problem only gets worse post school. In a Colts team that the Jarses are associated with, there are about 10 forwards who fancy themselves as loose forwards and only 2 props. In the back division, they all firmly believe that they are #10's, #15 or #14. All gravy, and no meat.
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  12. strokeside Larry Dwyer (12)

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    sounds like RL to me where everybody does the same thing!
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  13. strokeside Larry Dwyer (12)

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  14. I like to watch Simon Poidevin (60)

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    Slightly off topic, but how do you rate the standard of Colt's 1's compared to 1st XV?
    Obviously Colts is more physical, I am talking about the overall skill level and structure.
  15. Lee Grant John Eales (66)

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    Actually, in the main game I had the camera accidentally on the wrong setting. I meant to have the dial on the "sports" setting with an action icon, but when I got home I saw that I had it on the "close-up" section with a flower icon.

    Most of the photos were blurred except when the players were still, but a couple of the blurred ones in the blog looked arty like I meant to take them like that.
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  16. Roar Herbert Moran (7)

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    How are you with a video camera Lee ??? In my Videos, I have more footage of Bugs crawling on the ground and clouds in the sky than the actual game ! Lol.
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  17. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    Varies from Club to Club. The big 4, Uni, Wicks, Norths, Manly would eat 1st XV's for afternoon tea and then still be looking around for a 600 gramme steak and chips for Dinner. The bottom of the table teams in Colts 1 may have a decent game with the Schools.

    Colts 2 is probably a good level to compare with, although again the standards vary from club to club and most clubs would beat the schools.

    Colts 3 would be very good games and the better schools would probably be at the top of the table with the lesser schools around mid table.

    Remember Colts are not constrained by the Under 19 scrum rules.
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  18. strokeside Larry Dwyer (12)

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    How did this slip through without comment??
    I don't question the boys talent, or the boys themselves, they are only taking a path that is currently available, my problem is with the schools RU that allows this to happen.
    I assume both these boys will make NSW and probably the touring Schoolboy side, possibly at the expense of some other very capable rugby players. They will enjoy all that has to offer, and then totally turn their back on the game when they land back in Oz after the tour. I'm sure the people that I work for would not allow me to go of and work for someone else, get a huge promotion, then dump them, and come back to the original employer!
    Sounds like something the ALP would dream up!
  19. Inside Shoulder Nathan Sharpe (72)

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    How do they get a common philosophy though?
    Often, IMO, the hardest selections are 4,5, 6 and 7, together with 8 sometimes and depending on how you want the backrow to play.
    There are a range of views on what are the characteristics desired in 4 and 5 as for 6 and7, at least.
    The sea gulling makes all this worse - i think it is spreading to kids who have been selected and still want to score the try. Its driving me nuts.
    To some degree, the selection of a given player in these positions may be influenced by the way a game is intended to be played by the coach.
    How is this sorted out or does the coach identify the characteristics he is looking to utilise?
    i thought I had once seen the template on which the tick were to be placed - was it on here??
  20. George Smith Ted Thorn (20)

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    here you go, a copy of what was posted last year

    ARU HPU Player Checklist

    Prop Forward
    Scrum formation and engagement
    Body shape and height in scrum
    Lineout support / lifting
    Body height and angle at breakdown
    Impact at the breakdown
    Work rate at the breakdown
    Effectiveness in tackling

    Lineout throw
    Scrum organization
    Hooking, including ball channeling
    Body height and angle at breakdown
    Running with ball in hand
    Mobility in attack and defence
    Effectiveness in tackling

    Lock Forward
    Quality & consistency of push in scrum
    Body shape in scrum
    Drive in ruck & maul
    Lineout jumping / lifting
    Reactiveness to opposition ball in lineout
    Number of touches in general play
    Number & quality of tackles made
    Mobility in general play
    Impact with carrying ball

    Backrow Forwards
    Contribution to scrum
    Contribution to lineout as a lifter or jumper
    Pressure on opposition in close
    Pressure on opposition out wide
    Running lines in attack (support play & linking) and defence
    Effectiveness in tackle
    Effectiveness at breakdown: securing or sealing off ball
    Speed of arrival at breakdown
    General involvement in play
    Ball skills – running, handling, evasion
    Impact on the game

    Scrum Half
    Service from scrum, lineout and general play in both directions
    Handling of pressure
    Putting pressure on his opposition
    Blindside work in attack & defence
    Communication with forwards
    Field vision
    Decision making
    Communication with forwards & backs
    Organisation skills

    Fly Half
    Starting position
    Running alignment & angle
    Quality & speed of ball transfer
    Support lines & effort
    Ability to control game
    Kicking quality
    Organisation & bringing up defence
    Defence – effectiveness of tackles
    Composure under pressure

    Running alignment
    Running angle
    Agility & running skills
    Quality & timing of ball transfers
    Support play
    Midfield tackling
    Chasing of kicks
    Counter attack contribution
    Communication in defence

    Involvement on own side of field in attack & defence
    Involvement on other side of field in attack & defence
    Support of the fullback
    Communication with fullback & other wing
    Chasing of kicks
    Positional play from scrum & lineout in attack & defence
    Counter attack
    Receiving kicks & returning or other options
    Defensive qualities – tackles made

    Catching & kicking
    Organisation of back three (defence, kicks,
    counter attack)
    Positional play – defence & attack
    Defensive positioning & tackling
    Staying in the attack –support & chasing
    Communication skills
    Evasion skills

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