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QLD GPS Rugby 2019

Discussion in 'Schoolboy Rugby' started by terry from Townsville, Nov 16, 2018.

  1. KFC Stan Wickham (3)

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    Hard to get a call on BGS/Churchie after their draw and with no vision available on doubletake but GT were awful on the weekend. Their effort against Nudgee was courageous and if they could get their play makers to make more team oriented decisions, value possession, put together 10+ phases of pressure and had a goal kicker, then yes, perhaps they would beat a couple of teams. Still calling no wins for this year.

    On a positive note the 16A's have won 3 of 4 with their only loss by 5 so maybe next year they'll be back.
  2. WW2000 Frank Row (1)

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    And Terrace may just have fallen a little further. That said it's never good to go off half-cocked too early in the season. Injuries, refs, opposition, weather, salmonella laced burgers at the tuck shop all can have a substantial influence on results with half a season left.
  3. Roberts Rugby Dave Cowper (27)

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    Got the low down on the GT uncontested scrums. GT had exhausted their options for Props and had to revert to safety of their players. No ambiguous moves just safety protocols. The school coaches did what was required. Smart moves.
  4. Roberts Rugby Dave Cowper (27)

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    Yeah that shocked me. We didn’t know what was going on. Coach had no other option. Great win by UQ.
  5. Aussie Luke Chris McKivat (8)

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    We must have been watching a different game. Pasatoa made several line breaks, set up multiple tries, was devastating in defence and thoroughly outplayed his opposite number. His place kicking was off for sure but it was blowing a gale out there.

    Re imports, Nudgee won almost every game again on the weekend through to the lower grades like they have all season and so maybe instead of the “imports” conspiracy, it’s a rugby culture that wins them the games across the board. They attract the top rugby talent to the school due to their unique rugby culture and all the other schools have more or less the same cheque book they throw at prospective students.
  6. Oracle83 Ted Thorn (20)

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    Happy to disagree on Pasitoa as I know the guy has talent but he’s not playing at last years level IMO

    But have a reread and clarify where your import rant come from?
  7. Aussie Luke Chris McKivat (8)

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    Sorry mate, I meant the import rant for another post from someone else up further. Apologies.
  8. Oracle83 Ted Thorn (20)

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    Love a good rant all the same - cheers
  9. Confucius Say Larry Dwyer (12)

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    BBC would have circled 3 game in their rugby calendar this year. The first is this weekend and at home, expect them to blast IGS off the park.

    The other two game will depend on their depth which should be there but for some reason, is not. Evident in 2nd XV result and Downland result.

    Terrace the most disappointing season so far with the coaching impact minimal.

    Serious concern about GPS First XV defence this season. Obviously not a big focus for any team but if it was, TSS might have a contender. Are tackling basic ignored in place of S&C? Look like it with most game
  10. Rugrat Bill Watson (15)

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    Re imports, Nudgee won almost every game again on the weekend through to the lower grades like they have all season and so maybe instead of the “imports” conspiracy, it’s a rugby culture that wins them the games across the board. They attract the top rugby talent to the school due to their unique rugby culture and all the other schools have more or less the same cheque book they throw at prospective students.[/quote]
    Nudgee rugby culture is very strong but also frustrating for lads (and Dads) that aren’t on scholarships. Many fee paying students end up in Bs and even Cs when they would probably walk into some schools first xv and As teams. They don’t often promote players up to As at Nudgee but rather replace As wth imports and push good players down to Bs. That said competition for spots always makes for depth in squads and all lads are getting to improve Rugby skills and be part of a winning culture.
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  11. Garry Owens Alan Cameron (40)

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    Depth was alright as evidenced by the 12-12 result at half time with a front row that would be a 3rd XV front row if not for players being held out or still not right to go. Similarly at #10 down the stretch where 3rd or 4th on the depth chart was played. Add to which 3 x Firsts Squad players returning from injury that would be lucky to have played 3 games between them since May

    The truth is Downlands would place 4th to 5th out of 10 teams ( if you included them with the other 9 x GPS teams ) and so are a legit top half half of the table team. Garrick Morgan has done a wonderful job with this team and has assembled some great talent. And they are tough. Strong scrum , they get off the line , kill ball at the breakdown, are physical, and in your face with attitude and chat.

    Mac Grealy is worth 12-14 points against any Top 3 team and probably 20+ against the rest. Significantly, 3 of their tries ( 2 of which were directly from Grealy ) were against/ on First XV starters which accounted for 17 points

    So it’s sort of inaccurate and not right to dismiss Downlands and their significance without understanding proper context . They are a genuine , serious team that deserves respect , and , the respect to put a proper team out against them in what is only an 8 x game season . There is an argument for “rest” but there is also an equally strong argument for continuing to build combinations and rhythm.

    A weird parallel universe where I actually agree with Confucious re: the porous defense across the board in GPS First XV Rugby this season and the lack of value attributed to it when you consider how Nudgee won their last 2 premierships .
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  12. The Nomad Ron Walden (29)

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    TSS 67-3 win over TGS very impressive particularly considering the conditions on Sat , their F&A looking very healthy
  13. Lute Chris McKivat (8)

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    Well how do you explain the poor results in the seconds to date?
  14. Hound Jimmy Flynn (14)

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    I wouldn't be worried about ACGS after their efforts so far this season. IF GT can't beat them this weekend I would be very surprised. Both BGS and ACGS played pretty badly. Lots of dropped ball from BGS probably cost them the game. For the first game this year ACGS had front foot ball against BGS but couldn't manage to get the ball past their 12. Not once during the game did the ball get to the 13, 14 or 11 from the back line. ACGS have real issues with their inside backs. Poor options, poor decision making and slow ball. This is after making changes and no improvement. I sure in their wisdom the coaches will make more changes but not touch the real issue. It has been mentioned on this forum many times that if you have a good 10 your team will do well. ACGS is reaping the rewards of who the coaches choose to select. ACGS forwards are working hard and did hold their own on the weekend but to have a BGS rolling maul go 22 metres to score while three forwards were in the backline was inexcusable.
    After watching ACGS for many years I was hopeful with new coaches with 7's background that ACGS would try to spread the ball a bit but this has not happened. I believe they are a very young team who lack any rugby maturity and still go into panic mode. I hope they learn and grow for next year. For which I will come down to watch and support and enjoy schoolboy rugby.
    On a positive note the 2nd 15 are undefeated and 16A while not winning a game have lost by 4 or less with a draw. Sorry I don’t get down for earlier games so not sure how they are going.

    Maybe next year the sun will be brighter.
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  15. TheKing Colin Windon (37)

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    Pasitoa is coming off an injury-affected preseason and his second half on Saturday was among the best halves of football I've ever seen him play.

    If my flyhalf could carve a team like that up just weeks after returning from a hammy injury I'd be cheering. I'm sure Nudgee are.
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  16. Garry Owens Alan Cameron (40)

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    There is more than one reason that I am sure you, and others , have their views on but let’s start with :

    1. 3 x FIrst Squad Front Rowers missing for the first 2 to 3 rounds
    2. A First Squad lock / back rower and a First Squad back rower missing for 2 of the first 3 x rounds
    3. A First Squad No 10 missing for first 3 x rounds
    4. 2 x First Squad Centres / Outside Backs missing for the first 3 rounds

    That’s 8 guys that would be playing Firsts or Seconds where majority of them would be seeing field time in Firsts at least off bench

    So yeah ...at least half the team have been 3rds players who have battled as best they can and helped to keep games close -but when your front row and playmakers are gone - it’s going to be a battle . But - credit to Churchie and Terrace - who may not have the same top line talent in Firsts / Seconds but have much deeper talent from 2nds fringe / 3rds down

    Churchie 2nds especially - outside of 3 or 4 spots any one of those guys could easily play Firsts.

    The good news is that nearly all of the 8 are back and right to go so I don’t really see too many , if any, losses from here
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  17. Garry Owens Alan Cameron (40)

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    Nudgee really seemed to find that extra gear against Ipswich in the last 20m of the game that hadn’t really been there through the trial season and the early part of the season proper.

    Speed of their recycle picked up in the attack ruck which was a big factor - but on the other side of the ledger , after a sludgy start , Nudgee really found their defensive mojo.

    They are looking good and starting to whip into shape. If they were to play TSS now it may well be a different result even though I still don’t think they have the set piece that TSS does

    Lastus Aukaki has been their consistent best imo - a significant factor .Samu Kerevi clone
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  18. fairplay Ted Thorn (20)

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    Nudgees strength has always been its large boarding population (correct me if I'm wrong).
  19. fairplay Ted Thorn (20)

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    Ok round 5 early tips. Home teams listed first.

    TSS vs BGS: Hopefully TSS go easy on BGS. I doubt it. I haven't looked at the record books, but surely they are on track to being the highest for and against 1st XV ever. This game could hit 100 points, but I think TSS will treat this like a bye and rest regular starters (they have BBC at Miskin next round), so maybe only TSS by 50.
    NC vs TGS: TGS are in trouble, big, big, trouble. They are looking worse every game. NC don't even need to rest players because of the bye next week and can probably score on TGS at will. NC by 40 before running on the 3rds.
    BBC vs IGS: Both teams won't be holding anything back. BBC forwards to run the bigger IGS pack off their feet and be the difference in the end. BBC backs vs IGS backs will be a great match-up, Mason Gordon and company not rated highly enough. BBC by 3.
    ACGS vs GT: Honestly no idea. Both teams are not firing this year and could probably lose to their own 2nd XVs on the day. High scoring game with non-contested scrums and lots of dropped balls and missed tackles. As Churchie are at home and must be desperate for a win this year, ACGS by 1.
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  20. Roberts Rugby Dave Cowper (27)

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    Spot on. IGS and BBC will be close. IGS will be firing after last week’s performance. BBC defence has been good holding 2 teams to nil. Gordon’s goal kicking looks to be on point and probably the decider.
    GT will only get up marginally if their forwards hold a scrum.

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