1. Welcome to the Green and Gold Rugby forums. As you can see we've upgraded the forums to new software. Your old logon details should work, just click the 'Login' button in the top right.

Rebels 2021

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by RugbyReg, Jun 2, 2020.

  1. RugbyReg George Smith (75)

    Likes Received:
    14,267
    Lot's could change but, this is what we have so far. Let me know if I've missed anything (with links)

    TEAM NEWS:

    Hooker:

    Prop:
    Matt Gibbon (2021)

    Lock:
    Trevor Hosea (2021)

    Backrow:
    Isi Naisarani (2021)
    Rob Leota (2021)
    Josh Kemeny (2022)

    Scrumhalf:
    Frank Lomani (2021)

    Flyhalf:
    Matt Toomua (2021)

    Centre:
    Reece Hodge (2023)

    Wing:
    Marika Korobiete (2021)

    Fullback:
    Dane Haylett-Petty (2021)

    Development Contract:
    Declan Moore (Hooker)
    Cabous Eloff (Prop)

    Unsigned:
    Andrew Kellaway (2020)
    Tom English (2020?)
    Harry Potter (2020)
    Bill Meakes (2020)
    Cambell Magnay (2020?)
    Semisi Tupou (2020)
    Andrew Deegan (2020)
    James Tuttle (2020)
    Ryan Louwrens (2020?)
    Angus Cottrell (2020?)
    Boyd Killingworth (2020)
    Michael Wells (2020)
    Richard Hardwick (2020)
    Brad Wilkin (2020)
    Ross Haylett-Petty (2020?)
    Esei Ha'angana (2020?)
    Gideon Koegelenberg (2020?)
    Pone Fa'amausili (2020)
    Ruan Smith (2020)
    Cameron Orr (2020)
    Mees Erasmus (2020?)
    Jordan Uelese (2020)


    GONE:
    Luke Jones (Racing)
    Jermaine Ainsley (Highlanders)
    Matt Philip (Pau)
    Fereti Sa'aga (Retired)
    Anuru Rangi (ShiningArcs)
  2. Rebels3 Peter Fenwicke (45)

    Likes Received:
    1,787
    Hodge has extended contract there to end of 2023
    RugbyReg likes this.
  3. oztimmay John Hipwell (52)

    Likes Received:
    1,869
  4. Dctarget Greg Davis (50)

    Likes Received:
    2,843
  5. Rebels3 Peter Fenwicke (45)

    Likes Received:
    1,787
    Jeez we need some certainty. It’s been an issue for years, since the shitty decision to chop the force. There is absolutely no certainty for anyone wanting to invest, players etc.
  6. oztimmay John Hipwell (52)

    Likes Received:
    1,869
    I had hope that Philip muight stick around if he's on the PONI list. Hopefully this forces a rethink, both for the Rebels sake, and the Wallabies sake.

    I had Philip pegged as a future Rebels Captain. I see him natural leadership out on the field. He's built for the job.
  7. Mr Wobbly John Solomon (38)

    Likes Received:
    789
    RebelYell likes this.
  8. oztimmay John Hipwell (52)

    Likes Received:
    1,869
  9. Rebels3 Peter Fenwicke (45)

    Likes Received:
    1,787
    Physically as good as it gets, big, fast and powerful also has a stack of skill. However it’s the non physical things that can be questioned. He was signed for next season, so interesting to see him arrive early.
  10. upthereds#! Dick Tooth (41)

    Likes Received:
    958
    I AM SO CONFUSED

    Can someone please explain Philip?

    "Lock Matt Philip is staying in Melbourne until at least 2021 after inking a new two-year deal."
    https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2019/01/27/super-rugby-rebels-philip-re-signs-2021

    If he is under contract and there is currently no indication that contract wouldn't be honoured by the Rebels - how is leaving? Was it not a full 2 year deal? Perhaps one of those 1+1 year option in his favour? Or is He/Pau going to pay the Rebels a substantial amount?

    Also - Skelton
    rugby.com.au puts him at 190cm and 85 kg, though an article he is quoted as saying he is 95kg and 7s is trying to get him to bulk to 100kg. If he plays 15's then it may need to be more.

    Also said he was a 7s back but a 15's forward? So is this another player in the Wilkins/Wells/Killingworth mould? Are these guys likely to leave and they see Skelton as an openside, or does Wessels have an obsession with not very big utility forwards?
  11. Silverado Nev Cottrell (35)

    Likes Received:
    765
    My understanding is that contracts when a comp resumes will be renegotiated and that they will be considerably lower than what was originally signed. I don't know how that could be the case but I know of other players who are looking elsewhere

    Edit. I'm referring to contracts for next year and beyond
  12. upthereds#! Dick Tooth (41)

    Likes Received:
    958

    Still - that hasn't happened yet, so Philips still has a locked in valid contract running until the end of 2021 so I don't see how he could have already signed for Pau.

    This can only have happened if had a 1 + 1 year contract, NOT a 2 year contract, OR he RA/Rebels have permitted him to be released OR he/Pau has paid a fee to be released

    More likely he hasn't actually signed for Pau but he WILL if RA/Rebels cannot honour his contract as it stands.
  13. Silverado Nev Cottrell (35)

    Likes Received:
    765
    Yes. That's probably correct . But the players know they will be asked to take a pay cut on their contracts, hence not honoured. Hence the Reds 3 moving on despite being contracted

    EDIT. I know Hockings off contracted, meant the other 2
  14. GoMelbRebels Nev Cottrell (35)

    Likes Received:
    499
    Silverado likes this.
  15. brokendown Ron Walden (29)

    Likes Received:
    471
    interesting;Dallas has always had a strong rugby community'I remember back in the early 80's 3 or 4 players from my club,Nedlands,went over there to play rugby-some of them still reside there
    Getwithme likes this.
  16. upthereds#! Dick Tooth (41)

    Likes Received:
    958

    Yeh they moved on - BUT they were claiming they were rightfully terminating their contract because they had been illegally stood down. Then the Reds and RA agreed to terminate because they didn't want to force them to stay

    Not quite as simple as just deciding you don't want to do it anymore or that you think that your contract won't be honoured. You need grounds.
    Silverado likes this.
  17. RebelYell Alex Ross (28)

    Likes Received:
    351
    Skelton is a ripper. Will be a jet. Not quite Seany Mk 2, but will have a huge impact
  18. Dctarget Greg Davis (50)

    Likes Received:
    2,843
    Rumours about Sa’aga is moving on.
  19. oztimmay John Hipwell (52)

    Likes Received:
    1,869
    Sad, but not suprised. He's down o nthe pcking order and fustrated by injury. Might be looking for a fresh start.

    Where do you think he might go?
  20. Mr Wobbly John Solomon (38)

    Likes Received:
    789
    Jeez. Pretty short list of players without moving on rumours.

    Had always hoped to see a starting front row of Fereti, Jordan, and Pone. Possibly even with Hosea and Ha'angana in the 2nd row.
    RugbyReg and Mickey Rummery like this.

Share This Page