Round 3: Reds vs Chiefs, 6:45pm AEST - Saturday 9th of March @ Suncorp
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Why don’t we chant Queensland Red instead of We are Red? Not as cringy and has the same rhythm of ‘Queenslander’ that is successful for the QRL SOO team.
They've definitely been a good acquisition. However last year the Reds were down to 3rd choice props through injuries. Nongorr and Fa'agase have both stepped up this year.
Plus there are 3 imports.
dru
Tim Horan (67)
I would have stuck with Queenslander myself.
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Greg Davis (50)
if it changes my "We are Queensland, We are Red" number plates wont be current
Wilson
David Codey (61)
I really like rugbypass' match detail and their stats visualization paints a pretty clear picture of where we won here.
The one other key piece not captured here is probably the kicking game. It's a big part of how we beat them last year and it was key again last night. The Chiefs are very good at winning kicking duals with a 10 and back 3 that can out kick most opposition while also punishing them when running the ball back. It's a key pillar of how they build pressure, pinning teams back and waiting for counter attack opportunities to pounce on against broken (and bored) defence. Nullifying that with smart kicking, effective exits and some excellent returns of our own forced the Chiefs out of the style they're comfortable with, even when they still had the bulk of the territory.
Very close here with two obvious differences post contact metres and red zone conversions. The conversion rate was as much a function of as the rest of the stats as anything else, but the Reds making ~1.7x as many post contact metres (260m vs 151m) demonstrates how well we were dominating the collision and how were were able to stretch the Chiefs. No surprise we ended up with more linebreaks in this game then the other 2 games this season combined - 5 vs 4.On Attack:
Similar story on defence with very close statistics over the 80, except for our ability to get the turnover. McReight getting over the ball for us was a big part of that, but the fact that the Chiefs couldn't get the similar reward probably speaks to those post contact metres we were picking up on attack and our ability to win the contact.On Defence:
Finally the pace we were able to get on our own ruck while denying the Chiefs the same was excellent. Smallish margins here, but much of success in desperate defence on or near our line was possible because the Chiefs couldn't maintain quick ball.The Ruck:
The one other key piece not captured here is probably the kicking game. It's a big part of how we beat them last year and it was key again last night. The Chiefs are very good at winning kicking duals with a 10 and back 3 that can out kick most opposition while also punishing them when running the ball back. It's a key pillar of how they build pressure, pinning teams back and waiting for counter attack opportunities to pounce on against broken (and bored) defence. Nullifying that with smart kicking, effective exits and some excellent returns of our own forced the Chiefs out of the style they're comfortable with, even when they still had the bulk of the territory.
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Alan Cameron (40)
My memory is that it started in the halcyon Link days with the ground announcer leading it. I don't mind it, at least it is something we can all chant together. Too late now but looking back there was an opportunity for the marketing department and announcer to come up with something better given it will continue to live on forever.
At least we don't have those people in player themed mascot costumes anymore on the sidelines...that was a little cringe. Just keep the mascot to Rusty.
PhilClinton
Geoff Shaw (53)
I daresay it was born out of a want to have something unique to the Reds and differentiate the team from the Maroons standard 'QLD' or 'QUEENSLANDER' chant.
At the time on inception (the Link era from memory) the Reds were the hot ticket in town, so carving out a chant unique to them was a smart move.
At the time on inception (the Link era from memory) the Reds were the hot ticket in town, so carving out a chant unique to them was a smart move.
PhilClinton
Geoff Shaw (53)
That was a confusing and confronting time for all the ranga blokes keeping an ear out for their mates in the crowd.
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Mark Ella (57)
Haha - years ago I sat in front of one of those guys at Ballymore. Just shouted ‘Red’ frequently at obscure times during the game.
Got to admit I wasn’t a fan.
Tex
Greg Davis (50)
Chiming in late to congratulate you banana benders on that win. Epic in all senses of the word.
I thought the hit on Lynagh was an absolute dog shot that warranted a yellow card. I don't give a shit about the head impact or wrapped arm - the tackler committed to the hit after the ball was passed and smashed the smallest bloke on the field from his blind spot. Absolutely terrible.
I thought the hit on Lynagh was an absolute dog shot that warranted a yellow card. I don't give a shit about the head impact or wrapped arm - the tackler committed to the hit after the ball was passed and smashed the smallest bloke on the field from his blind spot. Absolutely terrible.
Wilson
David Codey (61)
It was unlikely to ever be cited, it was definitely yellow card worthy but a Red would've been excessive without high contact or no wrap. There's not much for the citing to do with missed yellows, they only deal in bans which come from things at the red card threshold or beyond.
I do wish we had some sort of points system where these yellow card level hits would accrue overtime and lead to bans. We could then get a better balance for the truly accidental reds not needing as much time on the sideline compared to the guy who has been putting in yellow worthy high shots all season and finally creeps up to red getting off lightly with "a clean record". Not sure how that could be effectively implemented with the broader context of international rugby though.
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Allen Oxlade (6)
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You could tell by the way he launched himself it was clearly a shoulder charge first and foremost. I saw no attempt at a wrap, just a little floppy right arm as an afterthought. Still, according to the rules, that is enough for it to be a legal tackle...
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Especially seeing as Lynagh had just gotten up from a stinger to his shoulder a couple of phases beforehand - they were definitely targeting him & trying to take him out of the game!
Low act and definitely deserving of a yellow at the time.