Rugby TV ratings 2015

[Strewthcobber]

So, I had a quick look through the last few pages, but I couldn't find the NRC round 1 ratings. Does anybody have them?

Three pages of talking about NRL deals and now soccer players' strength. :|

Didn't make Top 20 PayTv programs for the night and wasn't reported on the @mediaweekaus twitter.
Less than 37k.

It's really tough to find ratings when they don't reach the Top 20 benchmark on Foxtel

 

[Marcelo]

That's cute. Does your boyfriend lift too?

What are u talking about? These weights are nothing for a professional rugby player. I'm not saying I'm superman, anyone can lift more weight in my gym.

Will Genia can lift 180 kg in bench press:

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/rugby/will-genia-our-strongest-wallaby/story-fn8ouw0e-1226208498796

Andrew Sheridan benches over 225kg and squats 275kg:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5073373

Ben Franks can lift 240kg in squats:

 

[Braveheart81]

Really, soccer player are too weak. Neymar only weighs 68 kg!!!!!! An athlete of that weight has a minimal strenght. You should look at a soccer workout in the gym, even the netball girls train harder than them

What's your point?

There's an entirely different set of fitness and particularly skill requirements.

Why would a football player spend a lot of time in the gym when it doesn't relate to the requirements of their sport as much as for other athletes?

 

[TOCC]

Professional soccer players are very very light. I'm stronger than most soccer players, but not because I'm Hercules just because they are too weak, they don't train the strenght of the upper body. I lift 120 kg in bench press and 130 kg in deadlift.

A professional soccer player who weighs 60/70 kg can't lift those weights. But compared to a professional rugby player these weights are nothing. Martin Taupau lifts 260 kg in deadlifts.

I said I can beat a professional soccer player in a CROSSFIT WOD. Do u know Crossfit? In speed I lose against them but crossfit isn't just speed.

Whatever, any Shute Shield player who never play at Super Rugby level or test level can beat a top soccer player in a Crossfit WOD. They are so weak.

They have a lot of stamina but nothing more, they don't train the leg strength or the upper body. Look at a soccer preseason and then compared to a Rugby or League preseason, the difference is HUGE.

Again, I can beat a professional golfer in a Crossfit WOD without problems. Not because I am Hercules but because they are very very weak, even the best. (golfers and soccer players)

Have you ever played soccer? Because I did and I know the soccer training perfectly.

Now if I have to face Izzy Folau or Quade Cooper in a Crossfit WOD. They will crush me, no doubts.

Really, soccer player are too weak. Neymar only weighs 68 kg!!!!!! An athlete of that weight has a minimal strenght. You should look at a soccer workout in the gym, even the netball girls train harder than them

Ok, I didn't want to escalate to this, but being a 'cross fitter' doesn't make you some sort of athlete nor does it qualify you to claim you are fitter the a professional athlete, your figures of 120kg bench press and a 130kg deadlift highlight some massive deficiencies in your training program, you focus too much on bench and not enough on your core strength, if you can bench 120kg you should be at least deadlifting 200kg.. People get wrapped up in bench press because it's a beach muscle, though for your overall health and well being you should be focussing on core strength. So straight away posting those figures makes me question your knowledge in the field.

Your perception of weakness is based around power or lack of, rugby players are no doubt more powerful but that's the nature of the sport, in terms of strength and endurance, soccer players are amongst the worlds best athletes.

You talk about WOD's, we'll have a WOD where it's max heaves and max body weight bench press and then body weight squats finished with a 400m run... Soccer players would clean up compared to rugby union players.



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[Marcelo]

What's your point?

There's an entirely different set of fitness and particularly skill requirements.

Why would a football player spend a lot of time in the gym when it doesn't relate to the requirements of their sport as much as for other athletes?

The point is that the development of a professional soccer player is cheaper than developing a professional rugby player.

 

[Train Without a Station]

Those numbers you post up for pros are also more anomalies than the norm.

I'm 178cm and 89kg. Through people I knew working for the Rebels I was able to find out that many players in my position (back row) were lifting very similar, or even less than me for a number of lifts despite all outweighing me.

The only lift that most were able to outperform my numbers was squat, and I hadn't squatted all year at that time due to a hip injury.

In addition their 1km time trial times were not at all impressive (3:45+).

You seriously overstate the conditioning of the majority of rugby players.

 

[Train Without a Station]

The point is that the development of a professional soccer player is cheaper than developing a professional rugby player.

How does size and strength equate to cost?

 

[Braveheart81]

This is reminding me of one of the greatest internet forum threads of all time.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107926751

The Full Body Workout Every Other Day.

Maybe MHCS was involved in that thread?

 

[Train Without a Station]

This is reminding me of one of the greatest internet forum threads of all time.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107926751

The Full Body Workout Every Other Day.

Maybe MHCS was involved in that thread?

BH I employ the GC full body workout daily. Biceps, triceps, traps and calves.

 

[Braveheart81]

The point is that the development of a professional soccer player is cheaper than developing a professional rugby player.

How does size and strength equate to cost?

Because they need to use a gym less?

You're surely talking about an absolutely tiny portion of the cost of developing a professional athlete.

 

[Ignoto]

Whatever, any Shute Shield player who never play at Super Rugby level or test level can beat a top soccer player in a Crossfit WOD. They are so weak.

I have no idea why in a fitness argument you're talking about weakness/strength. Football players are built the way they are because they're experts in their specialist field. They need agility and stamina not strength. While their games are low impact compared to Rugby, they play more games per week (for most of the year they're playing 3 times a week) than rugby guys.

Just throwing it out there, Crossfit doesn't have a drug testing program. Since that appears to be your default to go to, you may want to read up on the accusations surrounding the 'top' guys and girls in the sport.

But hey, I'm sure Neymar is crying himself to sleep on his 200,000+ euro a week salary.

 

[Train Without a Station]

Nah Ignoto Rich Frowning is "natural" man. He just got to where he is by doing the WOD at his local Box every day.

 

[Marcelo]

Those numbers you post up for pros are also more anomalies than the norm.

I'm 178cm and 89kg. Through people I knew working for the Rebels I was able to find out that many players in my position (back row) were lifting very similar, or even less than me for a number of lifts despite all outweighing me.

The only lift that most were able to outperform my numbers was squat, and I hadn't squatted all year at that time due to a hip injury.

In addition their 1km time trial times were not at all impressive (3:45+).

You seriously overstate the conditioning of the majority of rugby players.

Well, now we know why the Rebels are crap lol. Of course, not all rugby players are like Julian Savea and not all soccer players are like Cristiano Ronaldo.

 

[TOCC]

The point is that the development of a professional soccer player is cheaper than developing a professional rugby player.

Please elaborate?

Is it cheaper to develop a professional rugby player or a professional cross-fitter?

Trick question, crossfit is nothing more then a brand name, someone bundled up circuit training, gave it a name and started charging people for it.


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[Train Without a Station]

Wasn't crossfit what rowers started doing in their off-season to keep fit for rowing, until they started to quit rowing to focus on crossfit?

 

[Braveheart81]

Surely the most expensive part of developing a professional rugby player are the private school fees.

 

[Train Without a Station]

I don't understand how we even got to the point that a WOD is the metric to judge physical fitness on. I normally use it as a marker to determine if somebody is a flog.

Tenuous link to Rugby TV ratings regardless.

 

[Marcelo]

How does size and strength equate to cost?

Well, the diet of an Olympic swimmer is about 12,000 calories per day. Compared with the diet of a soccer player (About 3,000 calories per day). The diet of an Olympic swimmer is 4 times more expensive.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...elps-12-000-calories-day-dont-doing-harm.html

To this you must add supplements like creatine, protein shakes and all kinds of supplements that a soccer player or a golfer doesn't need.

To this you must add the risk of injury. In a more violent sport like rugby injuries are more frequent, more severe and therefore more expensive. And that equation results in developing a rugby player is more expensive than develop a soccer player.

This NFL player eats 10,000 calories per day:

http://firstwefeast.com/eat/vegan-nfl-player-diet/

Not all sports have the same cost. There are more expensive and more difficult sports.

Please elaborate?

Is it cheaper to develop a professional rugby player or a professional cross-fitter?

Trick question, crossfit is nothing more then a brand name, someone bundled up circuit training, gave it a name and started charging people for it.


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I know that about Crossfit. It's just a way of naming an internationally recognized brand for training different capacities, not just brute strength or speed.

I did crossfit about 8 months and I left because I hate the crossfit culture

 

[Braveheart81]

You're seriously talking about the cost of developing a professional athelete in terms of the calories they need to eat?

I thought this conversation jumped the shark a while ago but this is just getting ridiculous.

Do you even lift 4,000 calories a day, bro?

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Well, the diet of an Olympic swimmer is about 12,000 calories per day. Compared with the diet of a soccer player (About 3,000 calories per day). The diet of an Olympic swimmer is 4 times more expensive.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...elps-12-000-calories-day-dont-doing-harm.html

To this you must add supplements like creatine, protein shakes and all kinds of supplements that a soccer player or a golfer doesn't need.

To this you must add the risk of injury. In a more violent sport like rugby injuries are more frequent, more severe and therefore more expensive. And that equation results in developing a rugby player is more expensive than develop a soccer player.

This NFL player eats 10,000 calories per day:

http://firstwefeast.com/eat/vegan-nfl-player-diet/

Not all sports have the same cost. There are more expensive and more difficult sports.



I know that about Crossfit. It's just a way of naming an internationally recognized brand for training different capacities, not just brute strength or speed.

I did crossfit about 8 months and I left because I hate the crossfit culture

JJ Watt who plays for the Texans and is an absolute monster of a human eats 9,000 calories a day but has only relatively recently started doing so. He used to be in and around the 5,000 mark which is supposedly pretty average in the NFL.