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RWC 2015 Final - Australia v New Zealand, Twickenham, Sunday 1 November, 3:00 AEDT

Discussion in 'Rugby Matches' started by Hugh Jarse, Oct 26, 2015.

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  1. Tex Peter Johnson (47)

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    Bloody hell. I'm going to need a xanax prescription by the time the final is finished.

    Short of hitting the power button, how does one block any and all references to rugby?

    Maybe I need to go all Tibetan mystic and squirrel myself away in a mountain cave and meditate on nothingness or something for the rest of the week.
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  2. Bullrush Jim Lenehan (48)

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    Thanks @dru but I've been here for a number of years now so I know exactly where I am thanks. I didn't ask for any of your support or for any kind of "rational" expose. (You do know that when you put words in " " you are normally quoting someone right? Please quote where I asked for a "rational" expose?!)

    Where I disagree:

    Scott Fardy vs. Jerome Kaino NZ - IMO, Fardy is Kaino-lite. He had a massive game against Los Pumas but that's exactly what Kaino brings to the table almost every week. Apart from the yellow card, he was close to the best AB on the park in both the quarter and the semi. Is almost back to 2011 form.

    Michael Hooper vs. Richie McCaw NZ - the stats show time and time again the huge amount of work Richie gets through at the breakdown - and the impact he has there - both on offence and defence.

    David Pocock vs. Kieran Read AUS - I don't disagree but just wanted to say DAMN YOU POCOCK ;)

    Bernard Foley vs. Dan Carter NZ - Carter is almost back to his best and even his shockers don't come close to a bad day out for Foley.

    Tevita Kuridrani vs. Conrad Smith NZ - all day, every day - twice in a RWC Final. Especially pairing with Ma'a. I think most rugby pundits outside Australia would take Smith in this situation.

    Matt Toomua vs. Beauden Barrett NZ - close but Barrett has done more internationally than Toomua. Toomua is great defensively but I don't think he brings as much to a team and a game as Barrett does.

    I think if you take every player at their best, IMO, NZ are better. If you take every player at their worst, I think NZ is a lot better.

    If a few of the ABs aren't at their best on Sunday morning though, we could be in for a world of hurt.

    Just my perspective anyways :)
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  3. Alex Jimmy Flynn (14)

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    Bullrush - I reckon you are probably right and it is borne out by the results of the past four years. Kiwis are class across the board and have been for years - the wallabies are a team on a journey and are continually surprising us with what they can do. How much more they have them is anyone's guess, but to beat the ABs I reckon they will need to find yet another gear - which is a big ask. That said, as we saw four years ago, in a final the normal rules don't apply. Bring it on!
  4. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    Which team is better looking?

    Scott Sio vs. Joe Moody AUS just
    Stephen Moore vs. Dane Coles EVEN
    Sekope Kepu vs. Owen Franks AUS easily
    Kane Douglas vs. Brodie Retallick AUS
    Rob Simmons vs. Sam Whitelock NZ just
    Scott Fardy vs. Jerome Kaino NZ easily
    Michael Hooper vs. Richie McCaw NZ
    David Pocock vs. Kieran Read AUS easily
    Will Genia vs. Aaron Smith EVEN
    Bernard Foley vs. Dan Carter NZ easily
    Drew Mitchell vs. Julian Savea EVEN
    Matt Giteau vs. Ma'a Nonu AUS
    Tevita Kuridrani vs. Conrad Smith AUS
    Adam Ashley-Cooper vs. Nehe Milner-Skudder AUS easily
    Isreal Folau vs. Ben Smith AUS easily

    Aus 4 vs. NZ 6. Would be 5-5 if Folau was at his best.

    Tatafu Polota-Nau vs. Keven Mealamu AUS
    James Slipper vs. Ben Franks AUS easily
    Greg Holmes vs. Charlie Faumuina EVEN
    Dean Mumm vs. Victor Vito NZ
    Sean McMahon vs. Sam Cane NZ just
    Nick Phipps vs. Tawera Kerr-Barlow AUS
    Matt Toomua vs. Beauden Barrett AUS
    Kurtley Beale vs. Sonny Bill Williams NZ

    Australia 12, NZ 7, with 4 dead heats.

    On that basis, Australia is going to smash it.
  5. Inside Shoulder Nathan Sharpe (72)

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    I think this is a good example of an issue I detected while over in Europe for RWC.
    IN France it seemed to have been overlooked that Oz had actually beaten the ABs in 2015 - it was like it never happened.
    So too here with the suggestion that "i can see why Fardy is being compared to Kaino - he had a massive game against the Pumas".
    He did.
    I don't think you've really watched every other game he's played for about the last 12 months if you think that was a one-off.
    Just why I want to argue against anyone anywhere underestimating us is a mystery.
    My feeling is the ABs will win but you never know.
  6. terry j Ron Walden (29)

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    and not further that she will be (according to pfitzy) incredibly frustrated for months to come?
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  7. terry j Ron Walden (29)

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    the pain tells me it is highly unlikely that I will make it. But when I visit him and it co-incides with a game I'll send you a PM if that's ok with you. (assuming we can PM on this site)

    I might quickly start checking if the game will be done live at a venue in bathurst. I can handle a ten minute drive, but not a three hour one.

    Any roarers know of anything in bx? Think KOB is a local of some description, he'd have a finger on the pulse.
  8. terry j Ron Walden (29)

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    Well, my missus is a kiwi from havelock north, so in many ways it WAS kinda an appropriate avatar. But I concede that in these circumstances not so much
  9. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    There's a story on the front page about pubs showing the game.

    Nutta has suggested this in the comments.

    "Rumour has it the Knickerbocker in Bathurst is all systems go"

    I'd call them and check.
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  10. terry j Ron Walden (29)

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    can I double like you BH? Saw that front page yesterday, so that comment may have been added afterwards.

    thanks very much, will definitely check (or should I say cheik?:))
  11. KOB1987 Simon Poidevin (60)

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    Actually I'm not in Bathurst, I'm at Mudgee. I'm told that any venue is able to get a special events licence for something of national significance like this and I know of at least one pub over here that will be open, but I think you have to get there by 1am.

    I'd try the rugby club pubs over there - CSU are sponsored by The Eddy and Bulldogs by the Kings Hotel, so they's be a good starting point. Bulldogs themselves could be screening it at their clubhouse.
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  12. Seb V Tony Shaw (54)

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    Too close to call.
  13. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    I was judging which team has better looking players.

    I think we smash the All Blacks in that regard.

    Apart from a few standouts, they're a team of dropped pies.
  14. Seb V Tony Shaw (54)

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    haha! I completely missed that part.
  15. terry j Ron Walden (29)

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    well, I guess mudgee is kinda close, but (as I recall) that you seemed highly likely to visit the wobs when they trained at bathurst on their tour last year I guess what it really says is that you are definitely NOT a closet wallaby/rugby fan!

    I think The Park was bulldogs sponsor, but they seem to be doing major renos that would rule it out for now.

    Anyways, might go for a wander around town to kill some time, even pop over to the clubhouse and see if there are any signs up (tho they do seem rather poor at that side of promotion)

    enough of this sidetrack of the thread, thanks to all who have helped with it.
  16. Mr Doug Dick Tooth (41)

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    Go back to Cab Sav, HJ, the Gin seems to be affecting you!!
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  17. Pfitzy Tim Horan (67)

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    I don't like where either of you are going with this. Just keep in mind this is sacrifice for the greater good, and keep your distance.
  18. swingpass John Thornett (49)

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    "aye, there's the rub", as Bill would say. played over 5, 6.. 10 games, i think we would all expect the AB's to come out on top, BUT and its the very large but, its a one off and there is a 50/50 chance Australia will win.

    I am hoping Cheik has kept something up his sleeve for the final. if the Wallabies play to their best and the AB's are off a bit, then Australia will prevail. i am quietly confident the team will give a good account of themselves.
  19. KOB1987 Simon Poidevin (60)

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    Yes I came over when the Wobs were there last year but that was to help bring about 50 kids over!

    Good luck with your search, sounds like the Knickerbocker might be on the money anyway.
  20. rugbyskier Ted Thorn (20)

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