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Schoolboy Rugby Violence

Discussion in 'Schoolboy Rugby' started by Hugh Jarse, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. forwards4ever Jimmy Flynn (14)

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    Your interpretation is correct! the 16 year old has not fronted, nor been called to front a judiciary or other citing body in Rugby! SJRU has done ..?
  2. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    Crikey, On what "authority" has this child been stood down from playing rugby then if it was not SJRU Judiciary?

    Sounds very "Dodgy Brothers".
  3. forwards4ever Jimmy Flynn (14)

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    I believe SJRU's authority!
  4. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    That is all right them. Great to see that the Administrators support their Judiciary, and the principles of natural justice.

    We are fortunate to have such capable personages in charge of our Juniors Game.

    And here is me thinking that the Dodgy Brothers were in charge.
  5. sarcophilus Charlie Fox (21)

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    criticisms are easy, but given regestrations are probably not completed for the clubs, has the 16 year old adolescent or any others of the mob involved expressed interest in persuing rugby this year? would you be inclined to if by paying your $200 rego you werent or may not be going to take part until the second half of the year (I dont know the charges or potential sanctions but given the level of interest they may be substantial if found true)
    if not can the potential suspension be carried until they do sign up or in absentia .
    has a judisery been formed or intrusted given the season isnt likely to start for a little while yet

    all up can a non existent pannel make any judgement on players that are not registered
  6. Man on the hill Alex Ross (28)

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    & round 1 for a new season kicks off tonight - any word on where this cartwheeling cluster$%^& is at?
  7. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    In a normal world the kids would be playing Under 17 this year. There is no Sunday Under 17's competition registered on Buddha. There is an Opens A and Opens B Competition.

    Last Year Coogee had a Under 16 and Under 17 Team. From those two teams eligible to make up an Opens A or Opens B team, there is no Coogee Seahorses team registered in Opens A or Opens B. The Coogee U17 team last year was basically the Randwick District team that played NSW State Champs and they made it to the Final of the State Champs.

    Buddha has a Sylvania Bulldogs Team listed in Opens A Sunday Competition.

    One wonders how much this incident, how it was handled, and the repercussions, may have contributed in some way to the inability of Coogee/Randwick to be able to field one team in the Open competition from the two teams they had last season.

    How many of those kids are now lost to rugby?

    The player drain in U16s and above needs to be urgently addressed. Independent Schools are OK and they provide plenty of opportunities for their 16 -18 year olds to stay in rugby. The options are very limited for the other kids in the CHS, CCC, and AICES education environment if SJRU can not offer a viable alternative.
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  8. Inside Shoulder Nathan Sharpe (72)

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    Like!
    I wonder does that unpaid intern at ARU ever idly google, say, "nsw under 18 rugby" - these are the hits I got:
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    All but 2 are league and of the 2 that aren't 1 is schools.
  9. sarcophilus Charlie Fox (21)

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    SJRU has codified the roles and requirements for teams to provide officials and crowd behavior

    I belive not even gingers are aloud to be coachs ground marshals and water boys at the same time, and if the holy trinity of officials aren't in seperate bodies a team will be deamed to have forfiet.

    the information is available on the SJRU web site
  10. Man on the hill Alex Ross (28)

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    & it makes it easier for everybody to enjoy their afternoon / morning / evening at the kids rugby!

    Ignorance is not an excuse & clubs are now required to control their own buffoon supporters!

    What could be easier?
  11. forwards4ever Jimmy Flynn (14)

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    Has anyone noticed that this whole team has disappeared! Not just the boy, for whom natural justice did not exist!
    There go another 20 odd players. Wonder if they'll join colts when school finishes? Or has rugby left them feeling distinctly disenchanted!
  12. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    ^^ See Post 127.

    I suspect that some of the boys have jumped up into Colts rugby as 16/17 year olds while still at school, with the balance "lost to rugby".

    Shame.
  13. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    This post from August last year.

    In isolation it means little, but there were alleged issues again on the weekend between these two schools. The details behind precisely what the issues are will hopefully be investigated by the Schools, and it is not intended to discuss them in fine detail further here.

    There is obviously some history to the issues between fringe elements within these two sets of schoolboys.

    Hope they can sort it out before the return match.
  14. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    A very well connected snout tells me that not only has the Coogee Seahorse boy still not been in front of judiciary, but that one of what could be described as a "person of interest" to this whole farce has been parachuted into the 2013 Sydney Juniors Under 17 representative team despite not attending any of the trials.

    Our game is in good hands. "Yeah Right" as the NZ beer billboards go. http://www.buzzfeed.com/copyranter/the-best-of-the-tasteless-tuis-billboards

    We approach the first anniversary of the "incident" and the boy appears to have been issued with a 48 week ban from rugby without needing to appear before a judiciary.

    When movers and shakers like [USER=8018]George Smith[/USER], [USER=5977]Inside Shoulder[/USER] and Mark Arbib are questioning the very existence and relevance of organisations like the Sydney Juniors. one would think that the current incumbents would at least try to prove that they actually add value, and are relevant and useful.
    Continuing to behave as they always have is a recipe to be oblivion and to be ignored as if they were two flies fornicating on the gigantic dungheap of life.

  15. Man on the hill Alex Ross (28)

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    A friend observed to me the other day about the changes at Subbies rugby - a few years ago this sort of situation would linger in the in-trays of the well meaning for a dreadful long time. Now days - the meet once a month committee has been replaced by an on the ball 7 days a week CEO type who asks for forgiveness rather than permission - and the Subbies board backs him!

    I expect that the SJRU board are all decent types - but there is only so much you can realistically get through in one monthly meeting and numerous out of regular job hours phone calls.

    Maybe that's the change they need?
  16. Old schooled Frank Nicholson (4)

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    As a parent of an Under 17 Coogee and Randwick team member from 2012 I can clear up as to why at least the under 17's team has not continued.
    8 Waverley boys, 2 at Newington are in year 12 and playing opens at school, a few into colts as school does not have sport for year 12. Some just natural attrition.Numerous others are working towards HSC as well.
    Not enough time to cope with both training and playing for school and club.
    A number of the team have progressed to higher levels NSW and Aust Schools limiting their availability.
    Most I think you will find turn out for The Myrtle Green next year for Colts.
  17. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    It would be good to see the more "talented" of the boys return to their grass roots district and not be attracted to play Colts for one of the more predatory Clubs.

    Note that Uni is not the only club who is prepared to go after "talented" boys from "out of district".
  18. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    That would probably be better value for money than the rumoured $100 k that is allocated for the Office of the Australian Junior Rugby Union.
  19. Rassie Trevor Allan (34)

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    I wonder if they have a similar thing in senior rugby?
  20. Rassie Trevor Allan (34)

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    can't think of another sport where you sit down and break bread with the guy who just broke your nose. It's a lifestyle, a brotherhood.

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