Shute Shield 2017

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Full scores from SRU web page:

Randwick 24 v 24 Eastwood
Southern Districts 34 v 27 West Harbour
Manly 23 v 18 Northern Suburbs
Parramatta 26 v 20 Penrith
Sydney University 33 v 29 Warringah

Eastern Suburbs 33 v 19 Gordon

Good to see such a tight set of scores. Good comp this year with plenty in the hunt.

 

[Blackers13]

Good move. I'm hoping all players remain on the field.

There was only 1 yellow all day, for a professional foul. Games all played in good spirit, Penrith unlucky in defeat.

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[Dave Beat]

Bit of chatter early on in this thread about the SS impacting the NRC - the SS is looking great this year with alot of very close games.

Great double page spread in yesterdays Daily Telegraph that covered the FTA Tv and the generous investment from grass roots level.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...n/news-story/70d04a9bd767c34853b5e0d2396c33a5

Made reference to ratings and compared it to the Soup, has a pretty good following.

Beaches to Bush - great crowd out at Orange, great initiative to take the SS to the bush.

 

[Quick Hands]

^^^What was the crowd like at Manly Oval yesterday? I didn't get back in time to get there, but I knew quite a few people who were going.

Wouldn't surprise me if 4 or 5 thousand turned up

 

[Dave Beat]

^^^What was the crowd like at Manly Oval yesterday? I didn't get back in time to get there, but I knew quite a few people who were going.

Would surprise me if 4 or 5 thousand turned up

I'd say 4.5
On the back of 3+ the week b4.
Good for club rugby

 

[Quick Hands]

I'd say 4.5
On the back of 3+ the week b4.
Good for club rugby

I meant to say wouldn't surprise me if 4-5 thousand turned up.

 

[Dave Beat]

I meant to say wouldn't surprise me if 4-5 thousand turned up.

I'd say 4500 as a guess.
And we'll over 3000 last week

 

[Inside Shoulder]

I'd say 4500 as a guess.
And we'll over 3000 last week

I have only seen Mack Mason at this level once and the conditions were poor but, in my view, Archie King is a better fit for the Beasts and it causes me to wonder why Mason was signed by the tahs - prior rep selection goes a long way for a long time.

 

[Dave Beat]

I have only seen Mack Mason at this level once and the conditions were poor but, in my view, Archie King is a better fit for the Beasts and it causes me to wonder why Mason was signed by the tahs - prior rep selection goes a long way for a long time.

Well I wish I could say I could assist and answer - I've heard "in the system" used but what does that mean?

 

[the coach]

I have only seen Mack Mason at this level once and the conditions were poor but, in my view, Archie King is a better fit for the Beasts and it causes me to wonder why Mason was signed by the tahs - prior rep selection goes a long way for a long time.

Mason played U20s for Qld and also U20s for the Melbourne Storm in league before NRC with Qld Country. So not the usual pathway. Someone must have been impressed with him.

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[Dave Beat]

Club Rugby is setting the bench mark in rugby Australian at the moment IMO.

Being run professionally, and supported by grass roots.


Saw this on facebook last night from an u10 kid.

They had to create a landmark that doesn't exist. He decided on a big rugby ball monument in honour of the Shute Shield Club rugby competition.

 

[the coach]

Club Rugby is setting the bench mark in rugby Australian at the moment IMO.

Being run professionally, and supported by grass roots.


Saw this on facebook last night from an u10 kid.

They had to create a landmark that doesn't exist. He decided on a big rugby ball monument in honour of the Shute Shield Club rugby competition.

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And being run by rugby people in the main, not by suits.

 

[Dave Beat]

And being run by rugby people in the main, not by suits.

Well in the Shute Space yes a rugby person of many years who does wear a suit.

 

[I like to watch]

So what do we deduce from this? That professionalism was actually a mistake? Can't be that, because all these players are professionals.


Club rugby supporters are just not interested in the game at higher levels? Maybe. The ARC and NRC are proof of that.


Whatever the reasons, there is only one future for the game if club rugby is the apogee. Park footy.

What we deduce, is that Super footy has had its time.
These full time pros are attracting less spectators to the game, and less viewers than some of the amateur club games.
It's time to re invent or we will surely die.
Continuing to do,what we have always done, is not a satisfactory vision for our future.

 

[the coach]

What we deduce, is that Super footy has had its time.
These full time pros are attracting less spectators to the game, and less viewers than some of the amateur club games.
It's time to re invent or we will surely die.
Continuing to do,what we have always done, is not a satisfactory vision for our future.

Super rugby has just made NZ rugby stronger and increased their depth. Not sure that the extra 2 teams have helped Oz rugby. They were supposed to stop players heading o/s but that hasn't happened. I believe we need to get back to a format that allows the Super players to play half the SS season like when we had the Tooheys New Cup.
(1) 10 teams in the SS (promotion and relegation?) playing 2 full home-and-away rounds
(2) reduce the number of Super rounds so that the 2nd round of the SS includes the pro players not involved with the Wallabies
(3) not sure we still need the NRC, but it can stay if people want it

 

[I like to watch]

I'm not sure about promotion/relegation.
I think the gap has widened, and I'm not in favour of a 10 team comp, cos the west is clearly going to wear the brunt of that decision.
We should be spending money out there, not eliminating them IMO

 

[Dave Beat]

Guys, rugby league crowds, and supporters aren't the same either from the old Windfield Cup played on Sundays, and recorded on the VCR.

I've seen some of the NZ games being played in stadiums equivalent to Concord, Brookvale Oval they are staying in touch with the people.

I reckon if NSW had a home game at Brookie they would generate a greater crowd than they to at the SFS, and play all 4 grades of a SS before hand.
Same could be done at a number of grounds around the state.

Its called staying in touch.

 

[the coach]

I'm not sure about promotion/relegation.
I think the gap has widened, and I'm not in favour of a 10 team comp, cos the west is clearly going to wear the brunt of that decision.
We should be spending money out there, not eliminating them IMO

I don't disagree with you about that, I've just given up thinking that it will ever happen seeing we've been saying that for 10+ years.

 

[24thman]

Do Easts have an obligation each week to pick Mack Mason?
From what I've seen Archie King is a country mile ahead of Mason.
Mason didn't look like he had anything verse Randwick on tv, Archie always looked threatening back at 10 against Gordon on the weekend!

 

[I like to watch]

It's the emporers new clothes....
They are in the Tahs squad,so they must be better than what we've got....

They are not being judged on what they do, but on who has previously signed them.