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Springboks v Wallabies, Newlands, September 28 2013

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Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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To extend the OT, the Exeter Chiefs.

Their name appears to be stupid more than anything. So I guess stupidly racist.

Either that or I had absolutely no idea about the history of Native American Indians living in Devon.

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It's mind blowing to think that someone thought that was a good team name and logo for a team from Devon.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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In the Iron Age, the Britons inhabiting the Devon area were organised along tribal grouping lines, and these were ruled by Chieftains.

It is historically appropriate to have a team called chiefs from Devon.

That being said, I am pretty sure that the Chieftains from Iron Age Briton did not sport Bird feather head adornments, nor have facial features resembling the indigenous folk from the Americas.
 
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RedsHappy

Tony Shaw (54)
That's a fairly good analysis of it.
I think it points again to the inability of the Wallabies to think on the run and realign. This applies to their attack as much as to their defence. They look confused to me and the blame can't be wholly put on McKenzie. There's a long road back from where we are.

QH: The Wallabies play all of 2013 has been littered with serious errors of defensive structure, realignment and individual defensive confusions and incorrect defensive reads. It's consistent, its fundamental and contributes hugely to game losses and of course an opposing team's useful calculus that it's likely the Wallabies will make defensive errors, etc.

That after eight 2013 Tests we still have these chronic problems shows the team very clearly lacks a top-flight defensive coach with deep experience of this crucial technical area, and how to train for excellent defence, and how to design effective defensive structures for the whole team, and so on.

To the best of my knowledge and desk research, Scrivener - the Wallabies defence coach - has had no defined, specialist experience in the area of defence.

Whatever, he's made made absolutely no improvement in Wallaby defence in the time he's had this role.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
QH: The Wallabies play all of 2013 has been littered with serious errors of defensive structure, realignment and individual defensive confusions and incorrect defensive reads. It's consistent, its fundamental and contributes hugely to game losses and of course an opposing team's useful calculus that it's likely the Wallabies will make defensive errors, etc.

That after eight 2013 Tests we still have these chronic problems shows the team very clearly lacks a top-flight defensive coach with deep experience of this crucial technical area, and how to train for excellent defence, and how to design effective defensive structures for the whole team, and so on.

To the best of my knowledge and desk research, Scrivener - the Wallabies defence coach - has had no defined, specialist experience in the area of defence.

Whatever, he's made made absolutely no improvement in Wallaby defence in the time he's had this role.
Correct. They seem to have many of the same realignment issues in attack as well.

I've lost count of the number of times we see tight forwards defending or attacking in wide channels. They shouldn't be "stuck" there as often as they are. In defence they don't have the speed or agility to tackle opposition backs and in attack the metre or two extra that they take with the ball often destroys good attacking options.
 
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