The Fallout from RWC 2015

[Highlander35]

Depends. I think we might do it. Hardie, Cowan, Strauss and Denton are our best 4 backrowers easy, and Cowan/Hardie/Denton worked better against you guys than Strauss/Hardie/Denton did against the Bokke, despite my man love for the bearded Cape Town Weegee.

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[waiopehu oldboy]

McCaw has not definitely retired, although most expect him to; apparently the NZRU has left the door open for him if he wants.
Savea will be in the 7s program so unlikely to be a big part of Tests next year, although might come in after Rio.
Plus, I reckon you'd be happy with Cane, Kaino and Read as a combo - it works pretty well for them.
So not highly likely.

He's not in the Crusaders squad so I'd say he's definitely retiring, just doesn't want to announce it now & have it distract attention/ focus from the job at hand.

Can't see Savea going to Rio then coming straight into the AB setup, but can definitely see him (& Ioane, also possibly Taufua esp if Kaino heads offshore again) being in the mix when the B&IL tour in 2017.

 

[cyclopath]

He's not in the Crusaders squad so I'd say he's definitely retiring, just doesn't want to announce it now & have it distract attention/ focus from the job at hand.

Can't see Savea going to Rio then coming straight into the AB setup, but can definitely see him (& Ioane, also possibly Taufua esp if Kaino heads offshore again) being in the mix when the B&IL tour in 2017.

I agree he'll likely retire, but I read somewhere the door is well and truly open, if.........
The really annoying thing with NZ rugby is that when McCaw, Kaino go then Cane, Savea, Ioane, Taufua etc are all there waiting. Not to mention others.
2017 B&IL Tour could be a cracker!

 

[Dctarget]

No Hansen is too much of a pussy.

So funny to think that it was a risk by Cheika to do it. Now in my mind I can't consider anything else and to think that the Pooper mightn't have worked is laughable. Long may it continue.

Also on this topic of Richie leaving, who is the heir to the captaincy?

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

^^^^^^^^^^ Read unless his form continues to tail off, in which case Cane. But they'll give Read most of 2016 to get his shit together again.

 

[KOB1987]

^^^^^^^^^^ Read unless his form continues to tail off, in which case Cane. But they'll give Read most of 2016 to get his shit together again.

Is Aaron smith a candidate?


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[zer0]

Is Aaron smith a candidate?

Not with those stupid quick taps in eminently kickable positions. Richie needs to administer unto him a slap and an order to cut them out.

 

[Dan54]

^^^^^^^^^^ Read unless his form continues to tail off, in which case Cane. But they'll give Read most of 2016 to get his shit together again.

Hell Read definitely, I thought he was immense today, his so called tail off in form is not as bad as some say!

 

[KOB1987]

Hell Read definitely, I thought he was immense today, his so called tail off in form is not as bad as some say!

I don't think anyone doubted his overall form, he just had a period this RWC where he had a case of the droppsies.


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[Dan54]

Ok what I would say is I really hope the biggest fallout from this WC is the game in Aus maintains the popularity it has gained over the tournament, as rugby loving kiwi that is my one fervent wish!!

 

[KOB1987]

I ran out of beer at half time and have been putting a few tokays away. Have to say it's a fine early morning beverage!


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[saulityvi]

I am about to go out, and despite the big 'NO's of the missus, I am going to wear the Wallabies jersey, hopefully I will get a few high fives and the odd 'All blacks won' comment

 

[Inside Shoulder]

I am about to go out, and despite the big 'NO's of the missus, I am going to wear the Wallabies jersey, hopefully I will get a few high fives and the odd 'All blacks won' comment

and the comment will make you a winner!

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Hell Read definitely, I thought he was immense today, his so called tail off in form is not as bad as some say!

The fact the Wobbs targeted him - as Cheika's bitch about the photo now confirms - suggests any drop in form might have been a drop in productivity, rather than form, caused by teams focussing on him. Easily done as Pocock's lack of usual imapct in the final shows

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Hell Read definitely, I thought he was immense today, his so called tail off in form is not as bad as some say!

Hands let him down a coupla times, as they have fairly often this year. Still our best 8 since Zinzan but not the dominant player he was say two years ago & the tail-off seems (IMO) to coincide with the head knock & prolonged layoff.

 

[Brumby Runner]

Would Ben Smith be a candidate if Read misses out?

 

[Hugh Jarse]

^^^^ I reckon Sam Cane is the long term Captain in Waiting being groomed by the Lords of Darkness. That will not be fall out from RWC but part of a long term succession plan.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

^^^^ I reckon Sam Cane is the long term Captain in Waiting being groomed by the Lords of Darkness. That will not be fall out from RWC but part of a long term succession plan.

cant have a back let alone a fullback as captain - even one that good

 

[zer0]

^^^^ I reckon Sam Cane is the long term Captain in Waiting being groomed by the Lords of Darkness. That will not be fall out from RWC but part of a long term succession plan.

It certainly seems so, but there's a slight flaw in that plan. Namely that Cane might not necessarily even be a guaranteed starter in a few years -- a trait that is normally somewhat desirable in a captain.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

It certainly seems so, but there's a slight flaw in that plan. Namely that Cane might not necessarily even be a guaranteed starter in a few years -- a trait that is normally somewhat desirable in a captain.

but if they first make him captain that will snooker his successors - just as it has to a degree with McCaw.