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The impact of cricket cheating.

Discussion in 'Cricket' started by wamberal, Mar 25, 2018.

  1. Up the Guts John Thornett (49)

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    Obviously the leadership group never consulted Khawaja, who has a degree in Aviation, as he could have told them a thing or two about air resistance. In seriousness though it's clear that Khawaja was never told because he appears to have more smarts than the rest of them combined and may have put a stop to it (at least point out they were going to get caught).
  2. Mr Wobbly Arch Winning (36)

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    I have never really understood how anybody gets away with ball tampering. It seems like a simple solution to me; make it a protocol to toss the ball to the square leg umpire at the end of every over.

    Captain, can you explain why this side of the ball is sticky and smells like Gummy Bears?
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  3. Tex Chilla Wilson (44)

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    With respect Wamberal, Turnbull is just seeking and basking in the media spotlight ahead of his 29th Newspoll loss.

    That aside, the reason this has sparked such a bushfire is because the Australian team, administration and cricketing media have been obnoxious pricks for years and now that has come home to roost.

    I'm not a dyed in the wool supporter but even I was disgusted with how Cricket Australia managed the Ashes series presentation. If that's indicative of the culture of the organisation -- win at all costs, win without honour, lose without grace -- then it should come as no surprise that it filters down the the players.

    The emperor has no clothes, Australians cheat and have fallen back to the level of every other international team.

    Did they cheat? Objectively yes. Was it in the same stratosphere as match fixing or collusion with bookies? Objectively not. Faf du Plesis survived his moment in the spotlight, as will Smith and Warner.
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  4. wamberal Simon Poidevin (60)

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    Tex,

    Maybe I am old fashioned. But I have been around a long time, and I have never seen anything like this in our sporting landscape.

    Cricket has always defined us, and united us, as a nation. Not any more.
  5. Tex Chilla Wilson (44)

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    It's just the point about Turnbull getting involved that I disagree with. I watched his press conference and heard him being opportunistic, that's all.

    I'm being a bit of a contrarian when I say that it feels a bit contrived, but so be it. The Australian cricket team and administration has been coasting on reputations built by other people for a few years now. Maybe this will be the kick it needs to address some of its cultural short comings.
  6. Brumby Runner Phil Kearns (64)

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    Is there any suggestion that the decision to cheat might have been influenced, at least in some small part, by the failure to uphold Rabada's suspension? Most likely, that decision would have left a bad taste in the collective Aussie mouths.
  7. James Pettifer Bob Loudon (25)

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    How about - John the bookmaker? Underarm? World Series Cricket? That's just in cricket in Australia.
    Cricket also survived Bodyline, the Cronje scandal, numerous other betting and ball tampering scandals.

    Yes, it is shit. But cricket will survive.
  8. liquor box Ken Catchpole (46)

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    underarm and body line were not cheating, at that point in time.
  9. liquor box Ken Catchpole (46)

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    Did Turnbull actually decide to make a comment or was he asked a question?

    This is not more important because he mentioned it, if he was asked if the Honey Badger was a good choice for the bachelor and answered it does not make it an internationally important issue.

    Aussies have always cheated, we just pretend we dont because it is usually easy to avoid seeing the evidence, this footage was damning.

    Popular Aussies are forgiven, Warnie was a drug cheat but is never referred to as former drug cheat, same with Samantha Reilly.

    This will blow over and the game will go on, the thing of interest will be if the players will be remembered as cheats. Is Dave Warner a cricket cheat or a best selling children's author (amazing for someone who you would not think could read)?
  10. Derpus Paul McLean (56)

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    Hah, i wonder what level of English comprehension is required to author a children's book.
  11. Ignoto Alan Cameron (40)

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    I think you're over-estimating how much the general joe cares about Cricket.
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  12. James Pettifer Bob Loudon (25)

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    True. Unsportsmanlike is probably a better description. They also had much larger impacts on both the game and the relationships between the countries.

    This will have no impact on the laws or on the relationship between the countries.
  13. Mr Wobbly Arch Winning (36)

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    Monkeygate?

    The best thing to come out of the underarm incident was the guy that made the tee shirt:

    "Our underarms may stink but at least our tampons are safe!"
  14. John S Billy Sheehan (19)

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    They may have if he was there. He only seems to get a national call up for home tests these days.
  15. Mr Wobbly Arch Winning (36)

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    He's there. Made 5 and 1.
  16. John S Billy Sheehan (19)

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    There you go, I stand corrected. Shows how much I've been paying attention to cricket recently...
    Their whole attitude has turned me off.
  17. Mr Wobbly Arch Winning (36)

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    I know what you mean, I really only check the scores these days. Once upon a time I would have watched hours.
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  18. gel Chilla Wilson (44)

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    Over-reaction compared to previous ball tampering incidents.
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  19. southsider Arch Winning (36)

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    As someone who occasionally gets called out for going off topic...wtf is this doing in the main section of a rugby forum
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  20. Sully John Eales (66)

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    Didn't realise. Has it moved?

    Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
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