The Most Valuable Player in Australian Rugby ?

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Surprised no one has mentioned Fardy yet.

IMO, the EOYT so far has shown us that we don't have as much depth at blindside as we maybe thought.

1- Israel Folau
2- Sekope Kepu
3- James Slipper
4- Michael Hooper
5- Wycliff Palu
6- Tevita Kuridrani

Pocock is out for his injuries, but under normal conditions, he should be on this list ahead of Hooper

Jones may change this, but at the moment I'd have Fardy somewhere amongst our most valuable.

 

[Pass it to Dunning!]

I'd like to throw Adam Ashley-Cooper's name into the mix. He plays 11 to 15, he rarely has a bad game and he's an inspirational leader kind of guy. Plus, he's good for marketing and offers a lot of experience in a very young Wallabies side.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Surprised no one has mentioned Fardy yet.

IMO, the EOYT so far has shown us that we don't have as much depth at blindside as we maybe thought.

Jones may change this, but at the moment I'd have Fardy somewhere amongst our most valuable.

Given he wouldn't be on an ARU top-up contract yet, Fardy is certainly our best value for money player at the moment.

(Edit, actually Kudriani probably doesn't have one either - so they are a tie for VfMP)

 

[Beer Baron]

I'd like to throw Adam Ashley-Cooper's name into the mix. He plays 11 to 15, he rarely has a bad game and he's an inspirational leader kind of guy. Plus, he's good for marketing and offers a lot of experience in a very young Wallabies side.

His name is also never far from a saga!!!!

 

[Scrubber2050]

His name is also never far from a saga!!!!

That is an interesting comment. Agree with you. But also interesting he seems to have a thin coat of teflon.

 

[Train Without a Station]

Comes across as a good bloke so people will quickly jump on you when you dare mention that he was good mate's with the self-entitled Giteau, good mates with known dickhead Lance Franklin, was the players representative at the Brumbies when Andy Friend was sacked due to "player power", was a senior player under Deans who eventually lost player support, was a senior player under McKenzie who lost player support and his mum came out swinging over being disciplined as part of the Dublin group last year.

Interestingly back in the late Deans/early McKenzie days there were comments from players unhappy with the leniency shown to Beale, O'Conner and Cooper and how they were attributing to the declining standards in the Wallabies. Clearly Adam Ashley-Cooper wasn't one of them.

 

[Scrubber2050]

Train, be very careful here. The Mum is a force to be reckoned with. We could be talking about a de-railment here.

But you have raised interesting points.

 

[Gnostic]

Kurtley Beale and Quade Cooper when in form and when playing without off-field issues would be right up there.. Quade obviously more valuable in QLD and Kurltey more valuable in NSW.

I think you'd find many in NSW who'd argue that point, indeed many who'd have no value on him at all.

 

[Braveheart81]

Well, as a Waratahs member who enjoyed watching him play a key role in the Tahs winning a Super Rugby title, I wouldn't be one of them.

 

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In many people's eyes, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) wouldn't even be in our best XV. That to me indicates he isn't THAT important. His experience is irreplaceable but we wouldn't be lost without him.

We have the cattle to cover most of the backline. Folau is the only exception right now because there is no equal/remotely close replacement.


Kepu, Slipper and Fardy would be my top three (in no particular order) probably followed by Folau.

Kurindrani in current form is vital too.

 

[mudskipper]

Well... I'd have to say Kurindrani on the field at this time but its a team sport... its only when they work it out and how to play together, we get winning results,,,

 

[Marcelo]

Surprised no one has mentioned Fardy yet.

IMO, the EOYT so far has shown us that we don't have as much depth at blindside as we maybe thought.

I miss Ben Mowen and Kane Douglas, rather than Fardy

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Fardy is perhaps the most unsung Wallaby right now. Jeez we could use him at the moment. I would venture that our other most valuable players are (in no particular order): Slipper, Hooper, TK, Folau and Phipps (yes, Nick Phipps).

 

[Teh Other Dave]

Slipper and Kepu. Amplified by the fact that we lack a 'plan B' off the pine.

 

[Marcelo]

Comes across as a good bloke so people will quickly jump on you when you dare mention that he was good mate's with the self-entitled Giteau, good mates with known dickhead Lance Franklin, was the players representative at the Brumbies when Andy Friend was sacked due to "player power", was a senior player under Deans who eventually lost player support, was a senior player under McKenzie who lost player support and his mum came out swinging over being disciplined as part of the Dublin group last year.

Interestingly back in the late Deans/early McKenzie days there were comments from players unhappy with the leniency shown to Beale, O'Conner and Cooper and how they were attributing to the declining standards in the Wallabies. Clearly Adam Ashley-Cooper wasn't one of them.

What are u talking about?

 

[Teh Other Dave]

I miss Ben Mowen and Kane Douglas, rather than Fardy

I'd like to see them give Fardy a run for his money.

 

[Scrubber2050]

I think Fardy has been great over the last 12 months. But that poition can be covered reasonably well.

Just comes back to Keps/Slipper or Slipper /Keps because ATM they are both irreplaceable and probably Israel (who is nearly irreplaceable)

 

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I think Fardy has been great over the last 12 months. But that poition can be covered reasonably well.

Yeah, by who?

 

[Scrubber2050]

Yeah, by who?

Higgers, McMahon and potentially Jones or even Mr Pocock.

I only said "covered" and didn't necessariry say "better"

 

[KAOPointman]

I'd say his on field performances easily justify his salary.

He's just won the JEM, he was probably unlucky to not be a nominee for the IRB Player of the Year and he's already 15th on the Wallabies all time try scoring list after only 27 tests. His try scoring strike rate is only slightly behind Campese who is miles ahead of everyone else.

Saying he was unlucky to be nominated for the IRB poty is a gross understatement. Folou, Slipper, quade and hooper are the most valuable for mine.