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Waratah Shield 2013

Discussion in 'Schoolboy Rugby' started by Hugh Jarse, Apr 11, 2013.

  1. Quick Hands David Wilson (68)

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    The main problem facing the Waratah Shield is that schools without a full-time rugby programme can't compete with schools that do. Augustines have been training twice a week since February, have played in the ISA, plus a few touring sides. How can a school whose players train once a week during school sport and compete in a local gala day compete with that?
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  2. Schools Rugby Tribune Frank Nicholson (4)

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    The question you ask is a simple question that deserves a straight-forward answer. Unfortunately, there is no straight-forward answer. In fact, it is so complicated, that even after thinking about it for 15 seconds, I have a massive migraine. I need to lie down and forget anyone asked this obvious question.
  3. Aurora Australis Frank Nicholson (4)

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    If winning is the only thing, they can't. If that was all you would have an invitation only competition, that requires so many points before you qualify. The warratah cup exists for these qualifiers. At that level they compete, but as with any knock out there are first round losers (just ask the ISA u16s team)
    To get through those qualifiers would need some level of competency gained outside of school and probably have the company of a few players that play club rugby together.
    Just having a go and not being scared of failure is still worth a throw. Comparing these lads with schools that compete as a team regularly (not just the brookvale school) is not fair.

    How do they compete?
    Pull on their boots, put in their mouth guards and have a go, that is competing they may not win or they may loose badly. They might just have fun in the process
  4. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    They can't.

    Surely you do not want a three game four team Waratah Shield Competition that starts at Semis with Scots v Augies and NEW v Barker with the winners playing off for the shield.

    The same philosophy would see a RWC with only the top 4 ranked nations participating. I mean what hope does Japan, Scotland, Italy or Ireland really have of winning? Why do they bother wasting their time and effort to show up when they have no chance of winning?

    The Shute Shield would start and finish in August with only Manly, Woodies, the Hobbits and the Students playing. None of the rest have any chance.

    Sport is about participation and development, both personally and as a team. Winning is nice but it isn't everything, and many people participate in sporting events knowing that they have no realistic chance of winning the premiership.
  5. Runner Nev Cottrell (35)

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    SchoolVictoriesYears won
    St. Edmund's College, Canberra 14 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1989, 1991, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004
    Matraville Sports High School 5 1972, 1976, 1977, 1983, 2007
    Randwick Boys High School 4 1963, 1975, 1978, 1982
    St Stanislaus' College 4 1974, 1980, 1981, 1995
    Epping Boys High School 3 1967, 1968, 1969
    Marist College, Canberra 3 1988, 1992, 1993
    St Augustine's College, Brookvale 4 2008, 2009, 2011,2012
    Manly Boys High School 2 1966, 1970
    North Sydney Boys High School 2 1971, 1973
    Hurlstone Agricultural College 1 1964
    Homebush Boys High School 1 1965
    James Ruse Agricultural High School 1 1979
    The Scots College 1 1990
    Oakhill College 1 1994
    St Patrick's College, Strathfield 1 1996
    Westfields Sports High School 1 2005
    Barker College 1 2006
    The Hills Sports High School 1

    An interesting list of who has won in the past
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  6. blackheart Peter Burge (5)

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    Have I got it right that the final is on Wed, if so who made it??
  7. The Rock Ward Prentice (10)

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    Auggies and their mate Oakhill.
  8. Monty Python Ted Fahey (11)

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    Gee, wonder why they cut St Edmund's out of the comp. ?!
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  9. The Rock Ward Prentice (10)

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    Good luck Boys today in your final. I hope its a exciting close finish.
    Any Scores and Info. Coming out of the game would be great for the ones like myself who can't get out to watch. Cheers.
  10. Inside Shoulder Nathan Sharpe (72)

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    Where and when?
  11. Aurora Australis Frank Nicholson (4)

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    Foreshore 2:45
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  12. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    Details from Rugby Tears above. Bloody good day for it.

    Hope it is slightly more competitive result than the last time Auggies and Oakhill met in the ISA. Lots to very little that day.
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  13. Wood Rat Alfred Walker (16)

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    no one needs to be scared of Augies. Oak Hill will have no better motivation than the Rat Park result earlier this year and a reversal of last years ISA and Waratah shield results.
    I will be making the pilgrimage and try to post the scores as early as convenient
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  14. The Rock Ward Prentice (10)

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    Thanks Wood Rat :)
  15. Wood Rat Alfred Walker (16)

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    St Augustine's lead 19-14 3 trys to 2
    Sts looking very scrappy after early try answered too quickly by Oaks
    Another exchange of tries put oaks up 14/12
    A late converted Sts try presented the 1/2 time score
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  16. The Rock Ward Prentice (10)

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    So far could be a close exciting game !
  17. Wood Rat Alfred Walker (16)

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    Not now 16 to go 47-14 to saints
  18. The Rock Ward Prentice (10)

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    Wow ! What happened ??? What's in the water bottles.
  19. Wood Rat Alfred Walker (16)

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  20. The Rock Ward Prentice (10)

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    Is that the final score ? Thanks for your updates, Wood Rat. When you get some time, any chance for a report ? Myself and others would love it. Cheers

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